Talk:Like a Rolling Stone/GA1

GA Review[edit]

I have reviewed the article with full detail, especially because I like this song. Anyway, the following is my assessment of it:

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
Not Applicable per below

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Is there a possibility that a picture could be added? This would really benefit the article much. However it is something I will not put on hold for.
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Other than the above comment, everything looks good. Great job after the last FAC :D - Cheers!^Mitch 32 ^contribs 10:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much!!! Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 17:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Al Kooper and Newport[edit]

Has Kooper changed his story of "how I got to play the Hammond" on Like A Rolling Stone? If it hadn't been for Dylan Ordering Wilson to turn up the organ part on the playback, no one would have heard it. "Dylan stumbled through the song, [Rolling Stone, at Newport] and it fell back to 3/4 waltz by the end of the performance", is total nonsense. The person that wrote this cannot have heard the '65 Newport perfomance - at no time does it fall back to 3/4 and is the best track on the entire recording. Best, 650 Norton (1951) (talk) 16:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thanks for the comments. This is "the person that wrote this", and I might advise you to read Wikipedia's policy on verifiability and reliable sources. The quote about falling back to 3/4 waltz is sourced by a reliable journal, and whether or not you disagree about the measuring, it should not be changed unless you have a reliable source to back up your claim. Thanks, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 16:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kodster, thanks for your reply. Sorry for any misunderstanding, by "the person that wrote this", I'm refering to the "source" that states: "Dylan stumbled through the song" etc. When interviewed by Howard Sounes, Noel Stookey reports that: "After "Maggies Farm", Bob and the band roared through "Like A Rolling Stone" Down the Highway: The Life Of Bob Dylan. p221 - and having owned a copy in one form or the other for 40yrs I can assure you this is indeed the case, it is a stunning version that certainly does not "fall back to 3/4 time".

Now for Al Cooper. Cooper had been invited to the studio by Tom Wilson and was not hired to play any instrument, let alone Hammond Organ. "He had the chutzpah to inveigle himself behind the Hammond Organ even though he did not play the instrument. Paul Griffin, who had actually been hired to play organ on the session moved to piano. Joseph Mack played bass and Bobby Gregg was on drums. The song kicked off with the pistol crack of Gregg's snare and rolled for almost six minutes, like a river in full spate. Bob celebrated the downfall of his subject in four venomous verses, culminating in crescendos of sound and emotion at the bridge. During playback Bob asked Tom Wilson to bring Cooper's organ part up in the mix. "Hey man, that cat's not an organ player," Wilson told him. "Hey, now don't tell me who's an organ player and who's not," he was beginning to tire of Wilson. Bob was dressed in a dark jacket and had his shirt buttoned to the neck. Standing at attention in the control room while the others slouched, he had the commanding presence of a general, and now that he was a genuine star he posessed real authority. He did not necessarily abuse his power in the studio, but he made sure people did exactly what he wanted. If they did not abide by his wishes, they were out, as Wilson would discover. "Just turn the organ up," he ordered. Sounes, p217-218. Source: author's interview with Nick Gravenites, Backstage Passes & Backstabbing Bastards by Al Kooper. Best, 650 Norton (1951) (talk) 19:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]