Talk:List of angels in fiction

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Cleanup[edit]

Some names appear multiple times for different sources (e.g. Uriel) while others have their different sources in brackets on one line. I think the latter should be preferred? Ruth Ivimey-Cook

Dogma[edit]

Should Dogma be linked to its wiki article? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma_(film) Ruth Ivimey-Cook

Tolkien[edit]

Many Tolkien characters are included but only some of them are what I would call an angel.

The Valar are Gods, not Angels, and so I would argue should not be included here, even though Illuvatar exists - it's not monotheistic and it's quite clear from Tolkien's writing what the relationship is.

Maiar and the "Wizards" are angelic in nature in that they are a step below the Valar, have immortal spirits etc, so Sauron (fallen Maiar) and Gandalf (Maiar) are fine, while Elves are (in Tolkien) not angelic IMO: I think some Elves have crept in to the list though my name memory might be faulty. Morgoth, Ulwe etc are Valar, the Gods.

Similarly, names such as 'Valar', 'Maiar', and 'Ainur' are categories, not individuals, and so should not be included.

Finally, Lorien is included (rather oddly): it is a placename, not a person. Ruth Ivimey-Cook

Supernatural[edit]

The characters in Supernatural are of course entitled to be listed but they do rather dominate the list, unhelpfully, and are often names otherwise used by purely human characters. Would it be perhaps better to split them out, or reorganise the page to list the angels by source? Ruth Ivimey-Cook


The Tolkien ones[edit]

I intend to remove the Ainur from this list, while described as "angelic" in places, they are, as I see it, not angelic enough. I asked for input at [1] but got impatient. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Also learned about CS Lewis The Space Trilogy and removed those as well, for basically the same reason. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:51, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]