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x.org reorg[edit]

http://wiki.x.org/Downloads_terms.html ( old site of X license ) doesn't show up anymore, but archive.org archive of http://www.x.org/Downloads_terms.html still does, and is different than the text of this license.

Some info[edit]

Which year that MIT license published? It is this license made by MIT? 2A02:C7F:963F:BA00:34DA:CBE0:8C13:F170 (talk) 21:08, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

It depends (not all files had identical text), and there were changes over time. TEDickey (talk) 21:34, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Who made MIT license? The first ever MIT license came out in 1985/1988? and it reads:
  Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and its
  documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that
  the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that both that
  copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting
  documentation.  No representations are made about the suitability of this
  software for any purpose.  It is provided "as is" without express or
  implied warranty.
2A02:C7F:963F:BA00:215D:3E5A:B849:228F (talk) 11:19, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

When did it started?[edit]

I cannot comprehend this license. Is this a new-generation copyleft license, which was made simpler than GPL? Or it this a very old license, and it is simple because software licenses were not that complex back in that time? So, when was the MIT license first used?

bad-written is editor's interpretation[edit]

The source says a lot of things, but that comment isn't there. TEDickey (talk) 13:07, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I agree with you. However there is no question that it would be an "unconventional" patent licence. One of the other sources said "badly-written" which in any case does not make the article better-informed. Updated. Dan Shearer (talk) 08:07, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

MIT-X11 vs Expat[edit]

Referring to MIT-X11's difference from Expat as an additional clause re-raises the misinformation that MIT-X11 was derived in some manner from Expat (which is hard to do some MIT-X11 preceded Expat by a few years) TEDickey (talk) 09:01, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I've just fixed it. Libnoon (talk) 06:04, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

The edit appears to have the same content (not fixed) TEDickey (talk) 08:09, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
I did invert the phrase though, saying that Expat was like X11 except the last clause was removed. Or do you think I should simply remove the phrase? Sorry, I'm used to submitting pull requests but I'm more a newbie about Wiki edition in Wikipedia, please bear with me... --Libnoon (talk) 20:05, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Not so: the text said otherwise:
Software that present themselves as having the "MIT License" often actually use a customization of the Expat license, by adding a clause at the end.

and goes on to say "For example, ncurses includes the following clause". However, the given source gives a timeline showing when the different licenses were first used. Lacking a reliable source providing a credible earlier date, all that one might say is that the Expat licence, first used a few years after the X11R6 license, used the same text but omitted a given clause. Saying that the (earlier) license added a clause is misleading the reader TEDickey (talk) 22:04, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Of course, if you were able to find a credible source using the same license text used and published earlier say, than mid-1997, that might be interesting to discuss. But there appears to be no use of that text for Expat before late 2000 (more than 3 years). TEDickey (talk) 22:21, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
@Tedickey: Oh, I see my mistake now, indeed... --Libnoon (talk) 00:38, 26 July 2020 (UTC)