Talk:MV Kalakala

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The Kalakala was a crab and salmon processing facility in Kodiak, not a shrimp cannery.

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NRHP listed March 22, 2006 NR 06000177

I'm curious why the author said that the word was not known in any local language; was there a specific source for this statement? "Kalakala" is listed as meaning "bird" in an early 20th century Chinook jargon dictionary reproduced at http://chinookjargon.home.att.net/shaw.htm. The entry suggests that the word is the same in the Chinook language, so that may be the proper source for the word, but I haven't been able to confirm the word in Chinook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.142.170.111 (talk) 09:02, 14 June 2005

Fleshing out the article

I've added some stuff to the article based on the sole source, the official Kalakala website, but I think there's a lot more that could be added. The aforementioned website has a lot of information that could be used in the article, especially on the history. The current history section is a bit underdeveloped, and nowhere is there a mention of how the Kalakala had the first commercial radar installed in it. I'd add that in, but there doesn't seem to be a good place to put it at the time being. I'm planning on working more, but I figured I'd let people know that this article needs a bunch of work. Finding more sources would probably also be a bonus... --clpo13_(talk) 02:51, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning of "Kalakala"

The current article states "...he later admitted the name was a fabrication with no real meaning in any Native American dialect." Whether or not the quote is untrue, the fact stated by it certainly is: "kalakala" does in fact mean "bird" in the Northwest Native American trade language Chinuk Wawa.^[1] ^[2] As it's obviously not of English, French, or Hawaiian (the three non-Native American languages which have lent words to Chinuk Jargon) origin, that means it's almost certainly a Northwest Native American word. In fact, the second of my two references above says just that (it's a Chinookan word).

I have to doubt the veracity of the quote, as well, as in the 1930s quite a few Northwesterners were still aware of Chinuk Wawa (which had been spoken widely as a trade language by both settlers and indigenous people alike in the 19th century), and the derivation of the vessel's name would have been obvious to many.

I have therefore deleted the unsourced quote and added wording indicating the etymology of the vessel's name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by N5jrn (talk • contribs) 01:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttp://www.rjholton.com/PDFs/Ec1.PDF

[2] ttp://www.gutenberg.org/files/15672/15672-8.txt

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