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Merge proposal

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Leading on from work I was doing on a William McKinnon (or Mackinnon, don't recall), I initiated a discussion about the Williams (see Talk:William Mackinnon). I'm sure I'm not the only one who found it difficult to work my way through the various pages relating to McKinnon. I have just created a redirect from Mckinnon to McKinnon, to avoid landing up on McKinnon Secondary Collage, as it was before, but I think more could be done to simplify the signposting. McIntosh (surname) appears to have amalgamated the Macs and Mcs, as I expect, but with McMillen and McMillan (surname) we have a different kind of disparity (and I will suggest a merge there too. Library catalogues and indexes of all types which followed the cataloguing standards, always alphabetised the Mc/Mac names as if they were all spelt Mac... (regardless of capitalisation), and in my view Wikipedia should emulate these rules, via appropriate redirects, to one central set index/DAB page.
This may be a proposal for a different discussion page somewhere, but can we have "(surname)" after all of these pages which list names like this? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 04:02, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support merge. There's little consistency between Mac/Mc surnames, and indeed of capitalisation of the following letter; and they generally all have the same origin. (There's also M', rarely seen nowadays.) Even if individuals may have been consistent in the way they wrote their names, people writing about them may not have been; and it would be helpful to our readers to gather them all in one place.
Oppose adding (surname) to surname pages unless necessary (e.g. if there's a different WP:TOPIC (e.g. London (name)), or more likely a DAB page) per WP:PRECISE. Narky Blert (talk) 15:22, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DONE! Thanks, Narky Blert and Shhhnotsoloud. I finally got back to doing this one. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 10:46, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]