Talk:Mansfield Central railway station

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An image has been added (File:Inside the car park of Mansfield Police Station where the old Mansfield Central station was located..jpg) by RailwayJG. Could you please confirm RailwayJG the basis for the filename and caption you have added? Do you have reliable sources covering the location resulting in the filename and caption? Perhaps in the railway books you have been citing elsewhere? WP:OI applies to this aspect.

Normally I would've created Talk pages at the image file page, but as you have uploaded to en Wikipedia and with the filename appearing both on Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons without Talk pages presently, this location will suffice in the first instance. Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 03:20, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can give you a couple of good books. The Midland Railway around Nottinghamshire and the Great Central Railway decline and fall books. The site is the former Mansfield Central station as one of them mentions its present state and an old bridge still exists nearby and an old overbridge. and you can make your own assessment. I thought I added captions and title on uploading my photo. Side by side maps are the best to look into it and the history behind the Mansfield railway. RailwayJG (talk) 04:22, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ThanQ, RailwayJG - but that doesn't answer the question. Specifically, do you have books that state the car park depicted was on railway land? Or to put it another way - have you guessed at it? I already have my own assessment, but that's not what Wikipedia is about.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 11:24, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have just consulted my books, os maps and asked those with local knowledge who knew about the railway and they clarify the police station is on the site of Mansfield Central station. The road is also called Great Central Road so I guess it hints a clue too. All the evidence I can gather from books maps and local knowledge. RailwayJG (talk) 16:26, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ThanQ - again RailwayJG, I'm being a bit vague so as not trying to put words in your mouth, but this is not about the police station itself; it's about your claim that the area now being used as a Police car park was on the station site. This was not railway land, AFAIK.

WP:OI states "Original images created by a Wikipedian are not considered original research, so long as they do not illustrate or introduce unpublished ideas or arguments, the core reason behind the "No original research" policy. Image captions are subject to this policy no less than statements in the body of the article.". If you've guessed at it to create the image and caption please confirm. I have to surmise that you definitely do not have a book which makes that claim? Pinging the author of this article DavidAHull for any info s/he may have that would substantiate your filename and caption.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 21:37, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough I didn't think it was an issue. If it is I apologize. I just remember looking on os maps and studying the Mansfield Railway and added photos from my coverage. I can't say it is on site or not as there is nothing I can find to confirm either. If the image is misinterpreted and wrong I am happy for it to be removed or changed. But I know the lead photo is definitely the site of Mansfield Central as plenty of people and book research and maps confirm it. I will let you make the call on the second photo Rocknrollmancer. Cheers RailwayJG (talk) 21:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, RailwayJG - the police station is in about the same place. I just wanted to anticipate that the book(s) could contain errors. I wouldn't expect you to know the detail

. The foreground with panda car is the old electricity board yard, the middleground with stone wall topped by razor wire is gas board yard. Beyond where the palisade fence is the river, lowest point of the town. These were where the electricity and gas supplies were based 100+ years ago, including gasometer. This is the (almost) reverse angle. On the 1965 Flickr image the height of the track bed is way above the natural land at that point, which drops away further to near river-level. There was no access on the other side of the embankment with the goods sheds and shunting lines (map-measured at 700 yards from the station) with buffers right up against the footway were here, (now B&M, previously B&Q). I think there was an underpass through the embankment for passengers to access the other platform with stairs/railings visible on zoom. The building to left is referred to in a blog as "Catholic flats", which must have been demolished after 1965 to build the electricity board offices. The police were using the office building until recently but are selling, probably for housing conversion.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 02:43, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There likely was and wow really interesting knowledge there. Fair enough. I had to ask a lot about the line and stations at here Sutton and Kirkby as there was quite a few of them. Really interesting knowledge and reading cheers. RailwayJG (talk) 03:57, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]