Talk:Marriott Constantine Hotel
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negative tagging
[edit]The article was tagged negatively with message that
This article may rely excessively on sources too closely associated with the subject, potentially preventing the article from being verifiable and neutral. Please help improve it by replacing them with more appropriate citations to reliable, independent, third-party sources. (February 2020) (Learn how and when to remove this template message).
I removed that tag because IMO it is inappropriate. There is in fact no sourcing from the hotel itself used in the article. It is entirely factual that "The hotel was renovated with assistance of architects Fabris & Partners of Latisana, Italy" and it is fine for that to be sourced to the architects' website and to an article they provide. It is also entirely factual to state that "The renovation included addition of multiple swimming pools by Myrtha pools company" with sourcing to a Myrtha pools company page. Likewise I think it is okay/good to point to a hotel rating website, not associated with the hotel, to point out it is the only 5-star hotel in Constantine. There is nothing "preventing the article from being verifiable and neutral". --Doncram (talk) 22:44, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- We have four sources: one from hotels.com, a commercial listing which does nothing but verify that the hotel exists; and then a website where the company which renovated the hotel presents itself[1] (it is a website where architects and so on can present themselves, a website dedicated to "partners" of architonic advertising for themselves, not a neutral service about the firm); the website of the company which renovated the hotel[2]; and the website of the company which installed the swimming pools[3].
So the only "third party " source is hotels.com, which is just a commercial listing. The claim that "It is entirely factual that "The hotel was renovated with assistance of architects Fabris & Partners of Latisana, Italy" and it is fine for that to be sourced to the architects' website and to an article they provide." does not address the fact that the tag "third party sources" is not about the content being factual or not, but that the sources are not independent. Fram (talk) 08:37, 26 February 2020 (UTC)