Talk:Mohammad-Ali Khan Zand

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Transliteration[edit]

The issue of how to transliterate (not translate) his name has nothing to do with Arabic vs. Persian issue for which Khashayar Karimi has reverted me, calling it vandalism.

The issue is how best to transliterate the short vowel as either [u] or [o]. Regardless, it is the same for Arabic and Persian languages, and the standard for Arabic transliteration equally applies to Persian, especially for the word "Muhammad" which is an Arabic term anyway. The standard used across Wikipedia is to transliterate it as [u], which is what I did.

I really don't care, and if someone wants to make a big deal about it, I'll just chalk it up to your ignorance and move on to the many other articles that need attention. Cuñado - Talk 01:14, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The wikipedia naming standard says that a standard transliteration should be used unless at least 75% of references show otherwise, making it effectively English. A quick google search of <"Mohammad Ali Khan" shah> brings 711 google hits, and <"Muhammad Ali Khan" shah> brings 745. So the correct name for this page is the standard version of "Muhammad Ali Khan". Cuñado

- Talk 01:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that google search with like 2% change doesn't mean anything. He was a king of Persia and Mohammad in Persian is pronounced Mohammad not Muhammed like in Arabic. --Kash 01:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For God's sake man, it has nothing to do with pronunciation. They are pronounced exactly the same in both languages. Educate yourself. I'm talking about how best to render that pronunciation into English, and there is a standard used on wikipedia which renders it as [u]. Cuñado

- Talk 01:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]