Talk:Monzievaird

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Distinct villages ?[edit]

It is unclear what the relationships are among Monzievaird, Monzie and Ochtertyre. Monzie is a recognized village on the map, but has no article, at present. Ochtertyre has an article as a village, but from the sense of this article seems to be just a house (manor house). Is Monzie Castle the same as Ochtertyre House? If the mausoleum of the Murrays of Ochtertyre is on the site of the old Monzievaird parish kirk, it would seem that Ochtertyre village and Monzievaird village might be the same. However Monzie and Monzievaird seem to be distinct, as they constituted different parishes according to the Boundary Commissioners of 1889. ^[1] It would be nice if someone could scan a copy of the appropriate part of the Boundary Commissioners' map. An unconfirmed source says: "Culcrieff lies between Monzievaird and Monzie and lies on the opposite bank of the Shaggle Burn from Monzie Castle." Another unconfirmed source says: "Monzie, Monzievaird, Inchbrakie, Dollerie, Ochtertyre and Culcrieff are all within 5km's to the north or north-east of the city of Crieff in southern Perthshire." Does anyone have access to an old ordinance map? Does any editor know someone who lives there who could point to a reliable source on these issues, or could take a photograph or two? --Bejnar (talk) 15:38, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

From this map, I see that all three are distinct. There does not seem to be a village of Monzievaird, just the church (mausoleum ?), the village of Ochtertyre is northeast of the church across a flat area. (I don't have the map key to identify what kind of flat space.) Monzie is some distance away in its own parish. --Bejnar (talk) 17:08, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Shennan, Hay (1892). "County of Perth". Boundaries of counties and parishes in Scotland as settled by the Boundary Commissioners under the Local government (Scotland) act, 1889. Boundary Commissioners, Scotland, by William Green & Sons). pp. 53–58.

Replacement of the civil parish system in 1930[edit]

"In 1930 the civil parish system was replaced and Monzievaird was put in the Highland District of Perthshire."

This quote from an article on a thinly populated former parish in Perthshire is the one reference I have seen to a reorganization of the civil parish system in Scotland (or perhaps just in Perthshire) in 1930. Can someone who knows enlarge upon it and provide a reference, please? --Oldontarian (talk) 13:27, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Shennan, Hay (1892). "County of Perth". Boundaries of counties and parishes in Scotland as settled by the Boundary Commissioners under the Local government (Scotland) act, 1889. Boundary Commissioners, Scotland, by William Green & Sons). pp. 53–58.

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