Talk:Morse code abbreviations

Has anyone considered merging this article with Q codes? There's some overlap 207.38.190.22 (talk) 23:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

List of abbreviations

Most of the abbreviations in the list are easy enough to guess. But what is the origin of LID? Mikeo1938 (talk) 16:08, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

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Difference from

The lede currently contains the following:

Morse code abbreviations are not the same as prosigns. Morse abbreviations are composed of (normal) textual alpha-numeric character symbols with normal Morse code inter-character spacing; the character symbols in abbreviations, unlike the delineated character groups representing Morse code prosigns, are not "run together" or concatenated in the way most prosigns are formed.

That seems easy enough. However, if one actually looks up the article prosigns, one finds that the vast majority are run together or concatenated; not just the rare exceptions that prove the rule. (Of the 34 in the first list, only 10 have an overlink.) Which is right? If the article prosigns is right, what then is the difference? The explanation from that article,

They are distinct from general Morse code abbreviations, which consist mainly of brevity codes that convey messages to other parties with greater speed and accuracy.

, along with the definition of Brevity codes,

Brevity codes are used in amateur radio, maritime, aviation and military communications. The codes are designed to convey complex information with a few words or codes. Some terms are classified to the public.

, is not helpful, since presumably both are used in said communications and are designed to convey information or messages. (That is, even if one diregards the the vague word “mainly”, which alone already cripples the supposed distinction.) ◄ Sebastian 13:48, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Good question. Both prosigns and brevity codes are concise (along with operating signals), well-defined lists of abbreviations for use in specific, often niche domains. Abbreviations is a generic term that can include all shortened notations. So prosigns are abbreviations used exclusively for creating standard operating procedures that aren't germane to the content of the message; brevity codes are formal abbreviations used to communicate common concepts with speed (in international aviation use these are called phraseology); and operating signals are abbreviations exclusively used by radio and telegraph operators to communicate standard things about the nature of the communications link or its operations, distinct from the content of messages.

So I'm thinking that this article should focus on abbreviations that are designed to send message content, such as the Phillips Code.PetesGuide, K6WEB (talk) 17:21, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Abbreviations in the example not in the table

Many abbreviations used in the example are not in the table. While most are explained in the example, I understand that they should be included in the table if they are usually used, or removed from the example if they are rare. 81.0.35.101 (talk) 09:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Pro signs

RN for end of transmission is not traditional, AR (same Morse code pattern: ._._. ) is. 73.197.210.33 (talk) 03:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Speaking of prosigns, why isn't it mentioned that prosigns have a "bar over" annotation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.226.175 (talk) 18:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC)