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The result of the move request was moved to remove the comma. WP:COMMONNAME trumps grammar rules every time. Aervanath talks like a mover, but not a shaker 19:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Music Is My Hot, Hot Sex → Music Is My Hot Hot Sex — The name of the track given on the album itself lacks the comma. Note that for the track "This Month, Day 10" the artwork does show the comma, which indicates the lack of the comma is not part of the album artwork's style. — Icalanise (talk) 12:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Oppose Albums, books, and other works often drop punctuation or use idiosyncratic capitalization that don't make sense in or have any application to use in normal text. -Rrius (talk) 20:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- However there isn't a rule in English which requires a comma between adjectives. For example I might describe a method of transportation as a big yellow taxi, or I could describe it as a big, yellow taxi... both forms are correct (this is not to say there isn't a difference in emphasis between the two). Icalanise (talk) 21:09, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- Whether a comma is required depends on whether the adjectives modify the noun in the same way. In your example, it turns on whether you are describing a big "yellow taxi" or a big and yellow taxi. The ability to use "and" between the adjectives is a good rule of thumb, but it fails in situations like "hot, hot", where the adjective is repeated for effect. In those cases, there again should be a comma. -Rrius (talk) 06:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Even so, the closest WP:TITLE gets on this matter appears to be "Do not replicate stylized typography in logos and album art". I do not believe this falls under this because the album art does use a comma for "This Month, Day 10". It seems fairly clear that the intended title does not use a comma, but hey if Wikipedia wants to set itself up as an arbiter of what artists can and can't call their works, no problems. Let's also go and get rid of the spelling mistake in The Pursuit of Happyness while we're at it. Icalanise (talk) 11:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Since I don't have a copy of the album and there isn't one displayed on the article page, I can't really respond. It is possible that the fonts are different, that they are different "layers" of the printed image, and that there was no conscious thought behind the inconsistency. It is obvious that "Happyness" is an intentional mispelling. It is not obvious that dropping the comma has any artistic basis at all. Commas are also often dropped on book covers and title pages, but that does not mean the comma-less version is the correct book title. In other words, dropping a comma, for books and albums, is just "stylized typography". -Rrius (talk) 21:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- I do have a physical copy of the album. The fonts are the same for all tracks in the listing. The song titles are rendered in the same way on the inside of the booklet ("This Month, Day 10" has a comma, "Music Is My Hot Hot Sex"), which lends credence to the idea that the comma is intentionally missing. Icalanise (talk) 22:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The sources from this article seem split on whether there is a comma but if the album itself doesn't list a comma why should we? Oren0 (talk) 09:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
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