Talk:Myron W. Wentz

Headings need to be justifiable and source supported

The topic, SEC investigation is absolutely misleading. The article provided as a source even fails to make such a claim. Looking into and investigation are very different. Additionally, the SEC will not confirm the investigation. Only verifiable facts should be posted here. If the SEC does complete an investigation, and the individual is found guilty, then it would be pertinent information. Or even if the SEC would confirm the investigation, then I would settle for it being listed here. Further, information regarding Minkow has no place here, as he has nothing to do with an SEC investigation. La grenouille —Preceding unsigned comment added by La grenouille (talk • contribs) 8 August 2007

I will allow the article to remain as a source of information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by La grenouille (talk • contribs) 8 August 2007

I agree with your argument. If the SEC announces an investigation or wrong doing the page will be updated. In regards to the "math" what's wrong with it? Jean314

The article states that the sale netted him $51.8 million on 85,000 shares. This is overstated by $46 million.La grenouille

LOL! I hope someone got fired over that one. Must have messed up their decimal causing the number to be 10X larger than it should have been.Jean314 00:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Childrens Hunger Fund

I saw that an entry about the CHF was just included in the article under philanthropy. Doesn't sit too well after looking a bit deeper into the relationship between USANA and the CHF. It appears that a large part of the so-called philanthropy involves tax exempt donations of USANA children's vitamins (Usanimals) rather than food, and the CHF in return is giving USANA free advertising, with unsubstantiated promotional blurbs such as the following:

"With the help of USANA Health Sciences, CHF Canada helps improve the health of more than 2,000 children in orphanages in Mexico, Peru, Indonesia, El Salvador, Cambodia, and Uganda with USANIMALS, life-changing daily nutritional supplements. Many of the children we serve are severely malnourished, and USANIMALS greatly improve their health by helping them digest nutrients."[1]

"USANA, a direct sales manufacturer of nutritional and personal-care products, and its thousands of independent distributors have donated more than $4.4 million in cash and products to CHF since 2001. These donations have helped the charity provide thousands of children around the world with daily allotments of Usanimals(TM), USANA's daily nutritional supplement for children"[2]

It's also disgusting to see exploitative photos of underprivileged children holding up USANA bottles being used as thinly-veiled product advertising, as in this case.[3]

Wentz and USANA are milking this relationship for all it's worth, as in this self adulating fluff video (the web is filled with similar puffery).[4]

Also, looking over some of the promotional literature, it seems that much of the USANA donations to CHF are coming from the company's distributors rather than Wentz personally or the company itself, and yet Wentz and USANA are taking the credit. It's unclear whether the company and Wentz donated so much as a penny.

There is also an unsettling political/religious aspect to the relationship between USANA and CHF, as indicated by this announcement that USANA would be sponsoring a CHF event honoring Jim Daly and Focus on the Family at the Ronald Reagan library. [5]

Funding the distribution of USANA products in exchange for deceptive advertising and subsidizing ultra-right political causes have nothing at all to do with feeding hungry children. I would suggest the USANA/Wentz/CHF relationship only be mentioned if high quality reliable third party sources can be found. I would not rely on either CHF or USANA as sources. Rhode Island Red (talk) 15:49, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Award Notability

I'd like to discuss with Jean314 what the criteria is for considering the Notability of an award presented to the article subject for future reference. --Boydbastian (talk) 17:32, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

If it's just for future reference, the question should be moved to Jean's talk page. Rhode Island Red (talk) 23:18, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

It may well be for future reference, but I want to establish notability of honors, awards and recognition for the subject of this article as well. It seems somewhat arbitrary at this point. --Boydbastian (talk) 16:10, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello Boydbastian and welcome back to Wikipedia!

I only have time to write a quick response so I hope I express myself clearly. The Albert Einstein Award was a reference I had planned on adding a long time ago but I ran into a few concerns which may have been resolved since then, but which your edit did not address. One of the major roadblocks I ran into was trying to find a neutral source which devoted coverage to this award. Everything about it came from media releases from either USANA or Global Capital Associates. I attempted to do research on the selection process, but that was also non-existent at the time. Hoping to narrow my focus I attempted to find out what scientific pursuits Global Capital Associates was involved in only to find out that it was more of a consultancy business than a science/health business and that they provided a number of awards to those who attended their paid seminars. Since I had a difficult time establishing the notability and relevance of the award I opted to not include it. If things have changed and more information is available I'm more than happy to open it up for discussion or if my initial decision was in the wrong I'm welcome to correction. As a point of contrast with the donation to North Central College information was provided from a neutral source (Chicago Tribune) which provided details as to the specifics of the donation.

As an aside, given that you're a paid employee of USANA you may wish to refrain from directly editing articles related to the company.Jean314 (talk) 18:12, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I'll see if I can provide any additional sources and citation. I understand your concern and have mostly refrained from editing this article and others related to USANA given my tie to the company. I have declared my position and have tried to engage in discussions and only make changes according to Wikipedia's guidelines and best practices. I'll stick to the Talk pages where possible. --Boydbastian (talk) 15:45, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

No problem at all. I would like to emphasize that we are happy to have you here and appreciate your openness about your connection with USANA. Others in the past were not as forthcoming with their connection to the company when they elected to edit, and in some cases, vandalize related articles. Jean314 (talk) 17:00, 23 July 2014 (UTC)