Talk:Newark and Sherwood

Adding speculation/original research/supposition/deduction

I've span-marked text as speculative under the Newark and Sherwood#Settlement heading. It smelled 'bad' (unencyclopedic) and jumped out at me; fortunately didn't take a lot of trawling through the history to find the culprit(s) .

Started in Jan 2012 by essentially a single-purpose account, and then swollen in Dec 2021 here, here, and here, by an editor now using DragonofBatley, who started in 2020 and may not have been cognisant of the Wikipedia editing crieria at that point and has consequently 'voiced' his or her inner thoughts and deductions, seemingly without any independent published prompts. Also note the use of weasel words annotated.

Many UK locations are now dormitory towns, and to me it's silly stacking-in wikilinked local places, simply bloat, which is why I feel it should be available to a wider audience.

Would one or more of you please review this and be bold in removing in entirety? Pinging @Crouch, Swale, @PamD, @JMF, @A D Hope, @KeithD, @Eopsid and @Rupples.

I can see DragonofBatley has been informed at Articles for deletion/Burton Waters concerning canvassing, so, for the record, IIRC I have only previously interacted briefly with Crouch, Swale and PamD (apologies if you are thronged, PamD). Happy holidays! 82.13.47.210 (talk) 00:55, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

The passages you have marked should be supported by citation asap or deleted. As a general principle (IMO, not formal policy, afaik), a district article probably should have a list of constituent CPs, but should not have a list of settlements. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:07, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure we need the content about commuting etc but other articles do sometimes use it though perhaps they should be removed as well. While DragonofBatley has sometimes in the past asked a specific editor who he/she thinks will support the desired outcome at the Burton Waters AFD I don't think DragonofBatley has selectively pinged people based on the desired outcome but based on similar comments at other discussions which doesn't seem as much of a problem. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:10, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you - I am still around. In the mid-1980s, a then-colleague was awarded a £3K relocation package (a considerable sum back then), but only moved two junctions up the M1 from J26 to a new-build at J28, specifically with a mind to future reselling as J28 is a major M1/A38 hub. The business we were working for now has some employees from Birmingham and Worcestershire, as has King's Mill Hospital. I remember telling my brother and wife who live in US that Tony Blair was on record saying that the willingness of the work force to travel was what had made his country great. Accordingly, the map would be cris-crossed with lines, but there can be no certainty which areas are linked with others, unlike railtracks.--82.13.47.210 (talk) 20:26, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Well, it's now 7 days since posting this section so no thanks are due to those who didn't respond. I have removed the absurd fiction, that is, people who live in area 1 work in area 2. Now starting my twelfth year with WP despite the off-putting, OWNing (I don't need any advice on WP:STEWARD, thanks ) disruptive editors, this must be the most egregious example of someone waxing lyrical, manifesting their own, distorted inner-thoughts, that I have come across.

I see the OR from DragonofBatley continues, as does the following around. S/he has done similar at Mansfield, adding Ladybrook (where I live) which is a very large social housing area created in increments from 1947 (yes, very large in town proportions, measuring a mile along the longest axis, although not as large as city estates Bilborough, Broxtowe, Aspley, Clifton) whereas others similar (Oak Tree Lane, Peafield Lane, Bellamy road, Vale Road) are not singled-out for mention at Mansfield; luckily it is hidden. Another area from the same edit has been deleted by an IP, with an edit summary argument offered. I see the majority of DragonofBatley's edits are still without summary.

If anyone is dissatisfied with my edits then you know where AN/I is.--82.13.47.210 (talk) 17:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Pal if you have an issue with me how about posting it on my talk page than on a discussion page. You can single me out all you want but I've added summaries to most and your clearly looking to make an example of me. I have seen nothing constructive from your summarises or posts other than me me me me me and me. How about you learn about decorum and WP: Respect before running around throwing wild accusations that you fail to address with me but others. I'm not gonna reply further to an anon who is hiding behind a keyboard with lack of respect or lack of decorum and throwing wild assumptions and accusations around. Be WP: Polite anon, thanks or stop beating a WP: dead horse over past edits or non offensive or controversial edits 👍. DragonofBatley (talk) 00:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC)