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Reviewer: Ian Rose (talk) 11:35, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Technical review

Structure/prose/images/detail

  • Performed my usual brief copyedit but generally everything above looks okay.

Referencing

Summary

  • This looks like a decent, succinct article on the alternative stealth fighter, so if you can just address the above minor points I'll be happy to pass it. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:05, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Kyteto comments

I had wrote an elaborate summary of comments and sentences I think could use turning, with substitute suggestions also included. Wikipedia had a serious server error, and helpfully all that was lost. So hours later, now I feel the server is more stable, I'll try again. Here's hoping. Kyteto (talk) 19:03, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • "The YF-23s were relegated to museum exhibits." I would reword as "Both YF-23s are now museum exhibits".  Fixed Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 06:02, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "This was made more crucial by the emerging worldwide threats, including development and proliferation of Soviet Su-27 "Flanker"- and MiG-29 "Fulcrum"-class fighter aircraft." Fulcrum isn't really a class, I'd change this confusing wording towards: "The need for a more advanced aircraft was emphasised by foreign advances, emerging Soviet fighters like the Su-27 and MiG-29 were designed with considerable agility, and several other nations were proposing new aircraft as well."  Fixed Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 06:02, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Piloted by Jim Sandberg, this fighter took off for its first flight on 26 October" I'd replace with: "This aircraft made its first flight on 26 October, piloted by Jim Sandberg".  Fixed Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 06:02, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It has been speculated in the aviation press that the YF-22 was also seen as more adaptable to the Navy's Navalized Advanced Tactical Fighter" I'd reword to "Miller made note of speculation that the YF-22 was also seen..."
  • I'd redistribute some of the references in the first paragraph of the body, they're a bit bunched up as four in a row, while there's no others littered throughout. It isn't a problem at GA level, but as I am being asked for comments, the people up at FAC would probably tear into it as it is. Then again, some of the people at FAC need tearing into.... :P
  • "Both YF-23s were furnished in the configuration specified before the requirement for thrust reversing was dropped" This wording confuses me a little. Was there ever a prototype made with thrust reversing? And what is the 'configuration specified', specified where, in that paragraph? It could use a little clarity, though I'd be tempted to dump much of the sentence altogether, as I don't understand what it was trying to convoy. Perhaps I'm being a little dense though.

I hope this has been helpful, it hasn't been my intention to do anything other. I defer to Ian Rose as the more experienced primary reviewer, who shall have the final say. I'll try to think up some more comments tomorrow following a fresh look. Kyteto (talk) 19:03, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tks Kyteto, and also Fnlayson for his work. As the article seems to have stabilised again now, I had another quick run-though and am generally satisfied with mods but pls note above comment re. retrieval dates. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Passing as GA, well done. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]