Talk:Ordensburg Vogelsang

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I translated the German Wikipedia article Ordensburg Vogelsang. My native language is not English. Please correct my expressions and other things if wrong!

Hi, I visited Vogelsang this July and thought that your overview covered the most vital points about the complex. Really good summary and great atmospheric photos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.239.26.177 (talk) 12:41, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

I trained and was billetted for many weeks at Vogelsang, when administered by the Belgian Army. Unfortunately this "history" of the place is severely distorted. Its history and ending is much darker than the author describes. It was a college for SS OFFICERS. It also included an Aryan Breeding Camp on the lakeshore (which was still there in the 70s). The MILITARY Training facilities included extensive artillery, armour and heavy weapon ranges, complete with mock-ups of villages for specialised warfare. The podium at the centre of the sports arena contained a cell, from which jewish prisoners were released to make a dash for freedom across the sports field. The deal was that if the prisoner made it to the low wall at the other side, he would go free. During his run he'd be the live target for officers on the podium. In the 60s and 70s, when I regularly attended the Training Establishment, members of bereaved families would be admitted to offer their remembrance to their lost ones at the memorial plaque on the sports field wall. When I was training there, we were not permitted to enter certain areas, because the Waffen SS had boobytrapped much of the underground facilities.

There is an extensive history of the place, compiled by the Belgian Army; a TRUE history! The establishment was one of five SS Officer Training Establishments.

The article, as it is is a rewrite of history and false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Old shorty (talk • contribs) 19:04, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]