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Overload meet the requirements for a notable band as they have released an album with the indie record label Black Mark. The album “Difference Of Opinion” was released 1993. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stovarn (talk • contribs) 06:59, 10 September 2008
The articles for this band and its albums do not appear show notability as defined in WP:Notability (music) guideline or the general WP:Notability guideline. If these articles are not improved shortly, I will nominate them for deletion through the WP:Articles for Deletion process. If I am mistaken, if they do show notability, please point out exactly which criteria they meet. Note that a band can be notable without all of its albums being notable, and a non-notable band can have a notable album. However, I do not see this with any of the articles related to this group or its works that I've looked at recently. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:06, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Overload may not be notable to you, but they may be notable to there fans all over the world. In fact, they are still making albums as self productions for their fans. And they have hade more than 100000 viewers and more than 130000 listeners on Myspace in the last 2 years. If that is not notable what is? And the fact that they meet the criteria for musicians and ensembles in Wikipedia:Notability (music) line 5, read. They have hade a record contract and they have released an album with the indie record label Black Mark. The album “Difference Of Opinion” it was released 1993. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.82.126.109 (talk • contribs) 06:58, 11 September 2008
I think you misunderstand. I'm not saying the band is not notable, I am saying that the articles do not sufficiently support the claim that the band meets Wikipedia's notability requirements. An article can be about something that is "notable to fans all over the world" and not meet Wikipedia's notability requirements, and a subject can be a subject which meets Wikipedia's notability requirements but still have an article that fails to support such a claim. Please read through Wikipedia's notability requirements carefully and add reliable sources which support the notability of not only the band but the individual albums to their respective articles. Note that in general, blogs, web sites and pages controlled by a band or its fans, press releases and other promotional materials are not considered reliable for the purposes of establishing notability. Notability is best established by "non-trivial" news coverage, such as a paper or online news article about this year's Grammy awards.
Line 5 of Notability (music) says Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). The claim that They have hade a record contract and they have released an album with the indie record label Black Mark by itself does not meet this requirement. More is needed.
I consider Overload as a notable band as they has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable. And they have released an album with the indie record label Black Mark. The album “Difference Of Opinion” it was released 1993. A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the Criteria for musicians and ensembles. CraneDRW (talk) 13:27, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
