Talk:P.S. 193

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Reasoning for assessment: The priority of this article must be to establish notability per Wikipedia:Notability, and reference any such material: Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Citing sources . It is an excellent candidate for deletion or merger into its school district. --Jh12 (talk) 16:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


I've added a school infobox, but it still needs an image, and an establishment date. Anyone have these? --Anakata 18:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Great about the infobox (wher'd you get it?)! I'll look for those . . . Would images of the school in yearbooks be under copyright if not explicitly stated? --Josh, user:POLLUX 18:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Go to the Template namespace.--Anakata 13:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I found an uncopyrighted graphic that should suffice for do i add/upload it...--Josh, user:POLLUX 18:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Scan it into your computer (if it's on paper), then convert it to png or jpg format. This could be done with Adobe Photoshop or the GIMP or any other graphics editor. Then click "upload file" in the toolbox on the left-hand side of the screen (on the nav bar). Just fill in the form. For help, consult WP:IUP, Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload, Wikipedia:Media, and WP:ICT. Make sure your graphic truly is uncopyrighted. To add it to the article, follow the directions at WP:PIC.--Anakata 13:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Just out of curiosity, where did you get this image and what is it of?--Anakata 14:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

    • Never mind the one I had in mind . . . but the two yearbooks I have, Classes of 2005 and 2006, are not copyrighted,as far as one can tell (are they implicitly??) . . . . is I scan them in, they'd do.. Reaction? --Josh, user:POLLUX 20:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Do you mean the photo of the front door on the first page of the yearbook? That photo is badly compressed and it would do better to search for another photo. The photo is implicitly under copyright, the copyright owner being whoever took the photo, or whoever hired that person to take the photo. So you would have to ask for permission.--Anakata 01:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
        • Thanks for all of your help, though! . . . . . Do we really need another picture? Hmmmmmm --Josh, user:POLLUX 00:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

P.S. 193[edit]

If I can find a current yearbook, would that help with the article, do you think? --Josh, user:POLLUX 16:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Josh, I admire your dedication, but you have to admit, our school isn't all that notable. Maybe you should try adding some external links and redirects from alternative capitalizations/punctuations.--Anakata 01:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Anakata, so far I have aredirect from PS 193 (withour periods) . . . it is still a mentionable thing though, and articles have most definitely been written on less worthy subjects . . . --Josh, user:POLLUX 16:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC) PS You didn't add the graphic did you?

Yes, I did. A way you could tell is by clicking on the history tab on the article page.--Anakata 13:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I tried that; I couldn't seem to ascertain what came frlom where. --Josh, user:POLLUX 00:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Mission Statement[edit]

From The NYC Board of Education Website:

"Our Mission

The mission of PS 193 is to provide a secure and nurturing atmosphere where all individuals work cooperatively towards achieving excellence by fostering each child's belief in himself/herself. We are dedicated to promoting honest and responsible behavior in our children by implementing a multi-ethnic and cross-cultural integrated curriculum, and developing students' problem-solving and critical thinking strategies. The Home-School partnership ensures the importance of parent involvement in each child's education. Through this partnership, school, personnel, and parents support the goals of providing a rich learning environment, an atmosphere of safety and security and an institution where the academic curricula integrate the arts and support fine citizenship. We will have reached our goal when our children are happy, independent, contributing members of society."

I moved this here from the article because it appears to be under copyright. Maybe paraphrase it?--Anakata 14:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks . . . paraphrasing should clear it up . . . do you want to or should I . . --Josh, user:POLLUX 16:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

You do it. I'm no good at paraphrasing. But why do we need a mission statement anyway?--Anakata 17:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
All right, I'll get started in that. More information is better, makes each article unique. --Josh, user:POLLUX 18:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


I'm proposing moving this article to Gil Hodges School, as that is the school's official name. Feedback please!--Anakata 18:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

That's incorrect though, all schools are officially referred to by their designated number, i.e. 193, 198, 222. Their "namesake-name" is purely for audio-aesthetic value, and to make the school more memorable. --Josh, user:POLLUX 18:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, Gil Hodges School is the name that's spelled out in aluminum letters over the doors! And besides, numbers seem so impersonal.--Anakata 13:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
School isn't meant to be personal. Better to stick with the official name. -- 15:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC) (josh)
Well, then we might as well call it "Gil Hodges 193K".--Anakata 02:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

by the way, the bit about cig students receiving work from above the next grades level is completely false..

Done. Sorry you had to see that--vandalism lasting more than two weeks is extremely rare!--gwc 07:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC) 15:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC) No original research on wikipedia is allowed. Again, this article is completely uncited, and it contains numerous opinions and false information. It's also clearly biased, written by the students of the CIG program. Although it was posted that the article was UTTERLY uncited, untrue, and biased in JUNE, nothing has been done to change it. i've deleted it because of that.