Talk:Philhellenism

"The world is the expanding Greece and Greece is the shrinking world."

Any source on this Hugo quote? I have been searching about and cannot seem to find anything, and I am now doubting its authenticity. Quinnov (talk) 01:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Looks like a pseudo-quote (found only on the web, no citation of the original work, nothing found in French)--Phso2 (talk) 12:33, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I did some searching too (on Google Books and elsewhere) and can't find any citation for this quote. Should it be removed? --Zuniaisha (talk) 22:12, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I will be bold and just delete it! --Zuniaisha (talk) 22:17, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Mild concern about the fluency

The fluency of the writing in this page is somewhat choppy, because I do not have a huge background in this topic I wondering if someone could come through and clean it up.

SADADS 23:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Historical markers in Greece for modern-era Hellenophiles

I was in Rhodes on the waterfront, and there was a walled house and yard that had a marker/monument to one of the British hellenophiles, as such, in both English and Greek. In years since I'd thought it was Durrell's but I'm not sure he lived there; wasn't E.M.Forster but definitely another politicized/acculturated hellenophile Brit of literary note. I'm wondering if a listing of the places etc in Greece designation as markers to hellenophiles (hellenophilia?) shouldn't be part of this page, if it can be researched. Or a listing of notable persons, literary, political or otherwise. From Lord Byron to Mary Renault.Skookum1 22:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Connection with Zionism

I wonder if there's any connection with Zionism. They appear to be on a similar concept, and in similar eras, applying on similar peoples (e.g. the British of the time). --94.70.87.157 (talk) 23:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm no particular expert, but my understanding of the movement is that it is more of an outgrowth of admiration for Classical culture which some individuals, such as the Romantics, admired. This admiration, for some, provided a reason to support the internal Greek movement for independence. On the other hand, Zionism is more a movement propelled from within the Jewish community. They are also seperated in their particular effect on European society by about 100 years (give or take), though both were present throughout modern history. They are distinct movements on their own. Sadads (talk) 01:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

My perception of philhellenism is the opposite of Zionism on a spiritual scale. modern conservatism (represented by strict adherance to christian/islamic/jewish school of thought which has a creator-creation-duality view of "God") was a Jewish invention to start with. Leftism, represented by free thought, affinity to science, arts and music, atheist/pantheist view of god (creator-creation singularity) were the features of Pagan/Greek cultures. Western history since st. peter's arrival to rome has been the history of the clash between the leftist and the the conservative schools of thought. first the conservatives appeared to defeat the leftists which led to the dark ages and then since renaissance (REawakening - note, not awakening but REawakening) there has been a gradual shift to left: modern Hellenism. history tells us today that probably the best way to move forward is the centrist way (as buddha taught- the middle way), as evidenced by renaissance as well as the fall of communism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.244.178.171 (talk) 16:51, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

The obvious similarity is that both Zionism and Philhellenism are Romantic political ideologies based on nationalism. However Zionism arose within the community that it wanted to liberate (the Jews of Central Europe), whereas Philhellenism arose in Northern Europe and aimed to liberate far-away Greeks. Nescio vos (talk) 16:03, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

"Classicists, a field undergoing a growing split between anthropological and Classicist approaches"

There have been troubles understanding and verifying the following phrase: The later 19th-century European Philhellenism was largely to be found among the Classicists, a field undergoing a growing split between anthropological and Classicist approaches to ancient Greece.

I checked the article Classicism fails to mention anything about that Can someone enlighten us with sources (reliable ones) in a scientific manner that analyze the splitting of the Classicist approaches? The aforementioned phrase may also need re-writing, with more information added to it. That could greatly help the readers understand what this phrase actually means.

Although the user User:Macrakis did very well to tag this (problematic) phrase with the tag "", I deemed more appropriate to remove this unsourced and unverifiable phrase from the leading paragraph until we have more info about this "splitting" theory in our hands. Also I believe that the article Classicism will also need this info about a split occuring, in case such info/source is found. Thanks --SilentResident (talk) 01:53, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

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A word is suspicious

In the sentence "offered an ideal, set at a romantic distance" the word "distance" is very strange and suspicious. Are you sure about its accuracy? Thanks for your answer! Mehdi khazaee (talk) 07:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)