Talk:Pickled cucumber/Archive 2

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Archive 2

Etymology

"Gherkin" looks like it's a phonetic spelling of the German "Gurken"="cucumbers". Any info on that?

thougt so too, et voilà:

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=gherkin

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gherkin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.114.181.244 (talk) 14:36, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Cats

I was going to try to put this article in one or more categories, but wasn't sure if gherkins should be called a fruit or vegetable. gK ¿? 18:55, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Pekel

Hey,

The Dutch word for preserving salts is pekel, not pikel.

Greets,

Maverick Hunter 14:41, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh, both pickles and cucumbers are veggies, as far as I know.

Cornichons

There's a page for Cornichon on Wikipedia. Since cornichons are just small gherkins, that article really should be merged into this one.

Cucumbers are fruit, BTW. --172.129.208.35 21:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

In England the terms are interchangeable, I have jars of cornichons and jars of small gherkins and the ingredients are indentical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Psychonaut3000 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 18 September 2006

There is nothing to merge. just redirect cornichon here. In fact, I think I will do it. -- WormRunner 03:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Triva

Liam - 22/09/2006 Re-added the triva fact about gherkins being able to glow if electrocuted. I think this is an interesting and amusing piece of trival and am unsure why it was removed before - along with the link to a video clip of electrocution of a pickle. Anyway - added it back sans links (were they a problem? Why?) if you are going to remove them please state why - also what was the problem with the link when the other 'fun' sites such as ihateghekins.com remain?

• Deleted: The links given in the trivia section do not verify the information: one is a black page with only a few words of text and one is some sort of silly "humour" site. Waerloeg 08:58, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Reverted - the electrocution link works for me, and it's pretty neat. Jerkin' the gherkin is a euphemism for masturbation, and the info about the building makes it clear that it's slang, not a proper name. I think they all are appropriate and informative, if somewhat trivial. WLU 14:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

jerking the gherkin

it is important that the usage of this word in the phrase above is kept because "jerking the gherkin" is probably more widely used than "can i have a jar of gherkins?" because A) everyone jerks the gherkin (and a lot, too) and gherkins taste FOUL.

So don't delete it again. It certainly is more important than about it being featured in a TV show that hasn't been on for like 20 years OK! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mancobus (talk • contribs) 07:49, 12 November 2006

However, I'd dispute whether "jerking the gherkin" is an euphemism, it sounds more colloquial to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.74.5.233 (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

<note - shouldn't it be: jerkin'...? <note 2 - gherkins do not taste foul... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.240.121 (talk) 09:54, 14 December 2006

• Deleted: Has no relevance on this page. Waerloeg 08:58, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Looking for a Gerkins Jar photo

I am looking for a photo of a Sweet Gherkins jar from the 1960's era - if you can help contact cathycnm@msn.com. Send link not photo - looking to include it in an article I am submitting so needs to be re-printable. Could post it here as well - for fun. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cathycnm (talk • contribs) 18:32, 4 February 2007

Merge

THe scientific name for the Gherkin is Cucumis anguria and there's an article for it. Makes sense to merge at least one of the articles into the other, I think Gherkin to Cucumis anguria is the better step as there's no ambiguity in the scientific name. WLU 13:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose This article is better suited for a merge into Pickled cucumber. Waerloeg 08:30, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose I don't really think it should be merged with either - definately not with pickled cucumber, as a gerkin is very different. If anything the scientific name should just redirect here and any relevent info there should be carried over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.144.122 (talk) 08:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose Plants and animals should not be classified by their scientific name. The scientific name should be mentioned in the appropriate place in the article under the common name. Wikipedia, like any encyclopedia not written for a small academic community, is well suited to educate the masses, and should not become too technical for the average internet user. Wikipedia is able to deal with ambiguity with little difficulty, and going technical at the expense of vernacular cannot be the solution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.74.17.180 (talk) 19:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose The Gherkin referred to in this article is not Cucumis anguria but a different variety of Cucumis sativus. I agree this article is more suited for a merge into Pickled cucumber or even Cucumber as it is the same species; however, currently the only reference in the article refers to it being a common name for Cucumis anguria. Without additional references to support it being a cucumber variety, Gherkin should probably be redirected to Cucumis anguria and the article considered for deletion. Legion211 (talk) 15:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

External links

An anon IP keeps adding the following links to the page:

• gherkin4fans.blinkz
• ihategherkins

I keep deleting them as a violation of WP:EL. If anyone wants to put them back on the page, they should make their case here. To my mind, they are not appropriate for the page.

WLU 20:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Groarke/833705077#/nickgroarke?ref=ts&__a=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gopies83 (talk • contribs) 13:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This page troubles me

Has anybody compared this article with the pages for cucumber and pickled cucumber? The bulk of this page is unreferenced, and by the looks of it, it has got some fundamental points wrong. It states that the gherkin is distinct from the cucumber, but gives it the same Latin name as the cucumber. The article also states that the standard gherkin is distinct from the burr gherkin, whereas the article on pickled cucumbers says the exact opposite. I'm not sure, but judging from the evidence I suspect:

• It is incorrect to say that the gherkin is distinct from the cucumber, as gherkins are a type of cucumber
• It is incorrect to give the gherkin the Latin name it has been given on this page, as this is the name for the garden cucumber
• It is incorrect to say that the standard gherkin is distinct from the burr gherkin

On a side note, there is an unreferenced suggestion that 'pickle' means 'pickled onion' in britain. This is not true - 'pickle' is a sugary/savoury mixed vegetable sandwich spread/condiment over here.

What do people think? I reckon this article needs cleaning up a lot, and should perhaps merge with pickled cucumber Melaena (talk) 16:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Please post on the bottom of talk pages, per WP:TALK. I'd say find the sources, then judge. If you WP:PROVEIT the page and it comes down to a tiny little nub, that sounds like a good choice for a section in the main page. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 02:49, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree, this article appears to be fundamentally wrong and should either be re-written or deleted entirely, the picked cucumber page provides better references and frankly the photo over there looks a lot more like the things that come in jars than the photo over here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.73.75 (talk) 20:52, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Merge them, a gherkin is a pickled cucumber, often involving dill and always in brine - almost every gherkin bought in a jar is a pickled cucumber not a burr gherkin, so why not just add a sidenote on picked cucumbers about burr gherkins and get rid of this questionable and odd little page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.53.55.185 (talk) 22:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

US Usage

In the US a gherkin is a small pickle, i.e. a small pickled cucumber. I understand it's different elsewhere but this should at least be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 00:45, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Building in London

30_St_Mary_Axe nicknamed "Gherkin". Worth to be linked here? --Helium4 (talk) 08:08, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Blue Gherkin?

Has anyone else ever had a blue gherkin, I had one in Duncans Diner in Peel, they say it's speciality. Any thoughts? Djdaar (talk) 15:17, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Image probably wrong

Hi,

I am pretty sure the image of gherkin is wrong. As they say, scientific name of Gherkin is Cucumis sativus. The image that it is linked in the [page] is of Coccinia grandis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.2.161.130 (talk) 20:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Atrocious

This article is that. It's poorly referenced, makes little sense, is possibly factually inaccurate and using of the wrong picture, and would probably be best served to be deleted or merged into picked cucumber. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.73.75 (talk) 00:58, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Additional citations

Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 05:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC)