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The article header suggests translation from the corresponding French article, but there is a big conflict - I've read over the French version and it says that the turtleneck appeared first in the 1890s as sportswear, used mainly for outdoor sports. The English article says the original turtleneck was used by sailors much earlier, so I suggest either the removal of the header suggesting translation, or looking into the veracity of both of these claims to its origin.
I removed the chunk about catsuits being painted on to the body because it simply wasn't relevant. I retained the spandex reference in the new section about mock polonecks because the mock polo /is/ the most common collar there (spandex edges roll something horrible). I haven't seen a mock polo in real life for a very long time.
Thanks to Safedom for adding an image quite relevant with the text. Good idea ! --SEwiki 08:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Umm, does anyone else think that the 'Polo neck worn without bra' seems a bit odd? Is this a noteworthy way of wearing polonecks? Most clothes can be worn without a bra, so I'm not sure if it is necessary.
And the picture of 'Black woman in a white poloneck' seems to me to be of a mannequin. Just wondering if anyone else thought these were weird. --Acamon 21:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I thought the choice of photos was unusual. --Mister Blume 21:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
It's pretty funny, though.
Can I just mention that the term polo applies to the type of shirt worn by polo players and the term Polar Neck is description of garments worn by polar explorers/Fishermen etc you cannot have a polar necked polo shirt...The polar neck usually of wool was devised to protect the wearer from the elements...somewhere it's all got confused and polo is being applied to the rollover type collar design of sweaters etc. The lighter garments were not in use in the late 1890s as synthetics had not been invented - the likes of polyester etc did not appear for another 40 years. The Turtle neck was a derivative of polar neck and it was manufactured with an excess of material so it resembled a 'turtles neck' ie: more loose folds of material.
Does anyone have better pictures? The top one looks more like an ad for a beverage than a representation of a sweater. The second one is not lit well enough so the black sweater turns into a sort of blob. I guess the third one is fine, though it does seem strange to use a picture of a mannequin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 18:56, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Removed the IDIOTIC statement about Polo necks being old fashioned. They are NOT old fashioned at all. How do I know this? I work in Fashion. And when I say that, I don't mean a silly independant branch. Infact I work for YSL. Thanks for irritating me by claiming such stupid things, when every store stocks them in the Winter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 18:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- In Britain, it's considered old-fashioned for men to wear them but not for women. They've gone from being unisex to being female in Britain over the last decade or so. Epa101 (talk) 14:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
"Good article" in French Wikipedia
Disney's Captain Nemo
In the Disney film (1954) of Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, set in the 1860's, Captain Nemo wears a turtleneck. Even though I knew turtlenecks originally were worn by sailors, I was sure this was inauthentic until I learned on a fashion website that turtlenecks were first worn in the 1860's!
Polo neck has to be wrong (IMOHO)
- yup that waht's I asked my self. "A polo neck (UK)" says the text in the main article. But the "related Section" Links to polo shirt and its asociated sport, wich is of UK origin, isn't it? What ever it is, it's NOT a Turtleneck. GMLSX (talk) 21:23, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Usage of 'skivvy'
As an Australian I don't feel that skivvy and turtleneck are really the same. A skivvy is a tight fitting long sleeved shirt with a normal, flat neck, while a turtleneck is an independent garment (that may also be a tight shirt, but is defined by the large neck), and I think most Australians would agree that they are separate articles of clothing. Any Australians back me up on this and deletion of the reference to skivvy from the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 05:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)