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Powhatan was the father of pocahontas, the beautiful indian princess. He ruled over 30 tribes around him.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.11.79.201 (talkcontribs) 17:51, 10 January 2006

Weirdly, this article says Powhatan was her uncle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.199.76.177 (talk) 20:28, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Move?

Maybe to avoid confusion this should be a disambig page linking Powhatan Confederacy, Chief Powhatan, Powhatan tribe (or this could be covered in the confederacy), Powhatan (village), and Powhatan County, Virginia. Thoughts?--Bkwillwm 14:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

It seemed like a good idea, but when I reread this article, the article covers the Confederacy and modern people/tribe. Unless you call this one "Powhatan Confederacy and modern tribe" (I don't recommend it) I think leaving the articles as they are makes sense. Leaving the Confederacy and tribe in one article makes sense to me as it shows the historical continuity of a single people. Badagnani 19:48, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Trivia

Depositing this section here as it doesn't contribute to the encyclpedic content of the article:

Powhatan in film

The Powhatan people are featured in the Disney animated film Pocahontas (1995). An attempt at a more historically accurate representation of them appears in The New World (2005).

Toddstreat1 19:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Religion

The Disney movie portrays the Powhatan as animists. Is this accurate? Can we add a section discussing Powhatan belief systems? Their website says "Tribal affinities remain strong, distinctive religious beliefs and economic traditions continue to be practiced, and in spite of efforts to force our people to speak only English, the Powhatan language is still alive!" MathEconMajor (talk) 15:14, 5 September 2009 (UTC)h

The Powhatan worshiped a number of spirits. The two principal gods were Ahone and Okeus. Vis-a-visconti (talk) 04:36, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Lead is too long

It should be only three or four paragraphs. It goes into too much detail and needs to be shortened.--Parkwells (talk) 19:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Accuracy

The bottom part of this article is of questionable sourcing. The neutral arbiter of what tribes are legit is the US Federal Government, yet the article includes information about the Powhatan Renape Nation of New Jersey even though they are not recognized by the Federal Government and the only source is the website of the tribe. Looking at the history is this page it looks like others have pointed this only to have the edits reverted.Utuado (talk) 18:59, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

"The neutral arbiter of what tribes are legit is the US Federal Government..."
LOL Ever see the bumper sticker "Of course you can trust the Government. Ask any Indian!" ? Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 19:09, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome to debate these topics on your personal blog, not Wikipedia. The guidelines clearly state that information must be verifiable and not based on original research. So follow your own advice and stop pretending you are the sole arbiter of accuracy. Utuado (talk) 20:28, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Governments around the world are rarely neutral arbiters, and wikipedia has no such policy of endorsing this government or that government as the "neutral arbiter". Get real. Whom do you base your political philosophy on, Robert Filmer? Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 20:41, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

removed pic of hacker

someone named "crown prince" hacked page with his photo. I removed pic. Ramapoughnative (talk) 00:44, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Unknown word

Article says, "In the 21st century, eight Indian tribes are officially recognized by penus as having ancestral ties to the Powhatan confederation." Looks like graffiti to me. Dedwarmo (talk), — 15:50, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Rappahannock River

The article states that Powhatan Creek is the only waterbody with a name that "references" the leader. This is true, but there are other Virginia waterbodies named with translations of their native American names. Rappahannock is often translated as "fast rising water." As a matter of interest, the lower river has a relatively small tidal fluctuation. High and low tides appear twice daily and typically change the water level by only a foot-18 inches. 69.161.103.252 (talk) 14:14, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

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This article is Powhatan, not Nanticoke

I demand a rational explanation for why there is such a concerted effort to add details regarding the sojourns of the Nanticoke in Pennsylvania when this had nothing to do with the article topic, the Powhatan of Virginia. Why you choose to block and ramrod rather than look at what you are doing, a racially motivated abuse of admin toolbox I am reporting to be documented. 172.56.28.133 (talk) 22:03, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Why are we still using the misnomer "Indian"? 24.236.70.18 (talk) 02:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

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Tribes are repetitive and inaccurate

Many of the 'Tribes' listed as members of the Powhatan Confederacy are duplicated such as the Patawomeck are listed twice; also many of them such as Orapax, Werowocomoco, and Pamakeroy were cities/villages of the Powhatan, not separate tribes. For instance Pamakeroy was the main town of the Pamunkey and Werowocomoco was the capital city Wahunsenacawh ruled from but was part of the Powhatan Tribe. Just as today Virginia has different towns and cities that are still part of Virginia, the Powhatan Confederacy had many tribes which themselves had multiple villagesOldeSage (talk) 13:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC).