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Presidential Directives are not Executive Orders
Please see the section by this name on the discussion page on executive orders.
Links 2 & 3 are broken
I tried looking up the sources 2&3 claiming that some presedential directives are classified on 'fas.org'--the links are broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
The amount of cross- and mis-information in this area is getting to be too much for me...
This article should be titled "National Security Instruments" and all subtypes based in/on National Security Council policies should redirect to it.
A Presidential directive (also known as an 'Executive instrument' to a lesser degree) is the generic general or main category used for classifying the various types of recognized and/or official issuances made by the President (or as delegated within the Executive). The following "tree" depicts those various types of Presidential directives, past & present, in no particular degree or importance in relation to one another (i.e. alphabetical list!) except for National Security Instruments (basically the historical timeline of use)
- Presidential Directives
- Administrative Orders
- Designations of Officials
- Executive Orders
- General Licenses
- Homeland Security Presidential Directives
- Letters [typically on Tariffs and International Trade, sometimes to/re: Congress]
- Military Orders
- National Security Instruments
- National Security Council Policy Papers
- National Security Action Memoranda
- National Security Study Memoranda and National Security Decision Memoranda
- Presidential Review Memoranda and Presidential Directives
- National Security Study Memoranda and National Security Decision Directives
- National Security Reviews and National Security Directives
- Presidential Review Directives and Presidential Decision Directives
- National Security Presidential Directives
- Presidential Study Directives and Presidential Policy Directives
- Presidential Announcements
- Presidential Findings
- Presidential Reorganization Plans
- Homeland Security Presidential Directives are not technically National Security Instruments because they are not developed by/within the National Security Council. They are the domain of the Homeland Security Council (only 10 years old btw). HSPDs are, however, frequently issued at the same time and/or in conjunction with a similar, refined, related, etc. National Security Instrument - thus creating the confusion for most folks. It is hard to separate the two if one does not keep in mind which 'Council' is behind the issuance in short.
- [Presidential] Memoranda can fall under more than one heading (such as Administrative Orders, Designations, Interpretations) depending on its subject matter or scope.
- A [Presidential] Notice can fall under more than one heading (such as Administrative Orders, Announcements, Interpretations, Findings) depending on its subject matter or scope.
- A Presidential Determination can fall under more than one heading (such as Administrative Orders, Findings, Announcements) depending on its subject matter or scope.
- Throughout history and to this day, certain types are somewhat "dependent" on other types (a Certificate was most likely preceeded by a Proclamation for example)
- Certain types must be published by law while other types are left up to the discretion of the President (or NARA) to decide the level of circulation/publication. Of course, some are only available through formal request (FOIA) and still others never see the light of day during one's lifetime because they are classified for National security reasons and the like.
- Most, if not all, of this info can be collected from just a handful of Committee Prints and CRS Reports to Congress. I'd love to straighten this and several similarly screwed up articles out as they pertain to the U.S. Presidency but being more of Wikisource-rat than a Wikipedia one, I'm not sure where to even start asking. -- George Orwell III (talk) 01:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
The list and many documents are avaiable through the Carter Library / NARA - http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.gov/documents/pddirectives/pres_directive.phtml rhyre (talk) 14:36, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Obama Presidential Policy Directives
Presidential Policy Directive 20 should be added/mentioned in the article
The Department of Homeland security publishes a list of policy directives including abstract, and all of them should be listed in the article: https://www.hsdl.org/?search=&page=1&all=presidential+policy+directive&searchfield=title&collection=limited&submitted=Search --Kistano (talk)
Requested move 24 September 2017
|It has been proposed in this section that Presidential directive be renamed and moved to .
A requested moves' current discussions subpage within half an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil.will list this discussion on
Presidential directive → – Pursuant to the problem highlighted by George Orwell III, I have written a replacement article which is much broader in scope in my sandbox. That article should be moved here (I hope the editing history can be preserved). I have rejected National Security Instrument as the new title for this article, instead deciding upon National Security Directive, which is probably more used, and makes more sense because a lot of their names ends with "directive". Uglemat (talk) 16:54, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
I have expanded the reasoning for this move request here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States Government#Moving "Presidential Directive" to "National Security Directive" Uglemat (talk) 14:10, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Full Title is given for each Presidential naming convention, no? Wouldn't it better to keep them all together? X1\ (talk) 19:03, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand what you mean. To be clear, I'm proposing that the page National Security Directive should contain the various presidential directives issued through the National Security Council, whereas Presidential directive should describe all the types of directives (of which National Security Directive/Instrument is only one type). I imagine that in the future, all the types of National Security Directives will have their own section over on that page. Uglemat (talk) 19:26, 24 September 2017 (UTC)