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K8 x 12 or 54?!

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For quite some time the page has included the claim regarding K8 kiosks:

"Only 12 remain most having been replaced with the KX100 — making the K8 as rare as the K3."

The text code includes the note:

"This is ambiguous. Does it mean that there are only 12 K8 phone boxes left in working circulation, or 12 K8 Mk2 phone boxes? According to http://www.the-telephone-box.co.uk/kiosks/k8/ - there are currently 54 out of 11,000 left in circulation."

The claim of 12 clearly cannot apply to K8s as a whole. This BBC page seems to have cribbed the number from here, but states that there are four in Swindon alone. A quarter of the total in one small city? Unlikely.

Then again, even the 54 claimed at the above linked page is suspect. Does it mean just BT boxes, because there are a fair amount preserved in Hull, as well as at least eight as non-public telephones at London Underground stations? This page lists 51 locations, and that's clearly just stratching the surface. Nick Cooper (talk) 16:31, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You may have a point about the Hull area figures being in addition to the BT network. So it could be 54 plus however many are installed in Hull. Kreb (talk) 22:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Cregneash green-painted box

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This has just been marked as {{dubious}}, but there's a picture of it here. Whether, as a temporary job just for a couple of days far a movie, it merits inclusion in the article is another issue.--AntientNestor (talk) 08:30, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Problem is photos can be faked and we only have the photographer's word for it that it was done for a film. Needs a reliable source. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:48, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
IMDB isn't a WP:RS, but it does record that the movie locations included Cregneash. Still don't think this bit of trivia merits inclusion though.--AntientNestor (talk) 09:02, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:06, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree this looks like trivia. However, there are some slight anomalies. The film was Waking Ned, and our article on it confirms that it was set in Ireland but largely filmed in Cregneash (citing a Guardian article). It was released in 1998; but the photo was taken in 2005. Also, the photo shows the crown highlighted in gold: the set designers wouldn't have done that if they were trying to evoke Ireland. So it looks as if the box was painted green for the film, but then left green (perhaps even repainted green) for some years afterwards, perhaps deliberately as a tourist attraction. If so, that's moderately interesting, and possibly worth a brief mention, but obviously needs a proper source. More generally, we could do with some (sourced) information on green K6s: they do exist in Ireland (the article mentions Kinsale, but I'm pretty certain they're elsewhere as well – with no crown); and they also exist in National Parks etc in England (the article includes a photo of one in North Yorkshire). GrindtXX (talk) 13:25, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just had a look on Google maps. My comment about green for "just for a couple of days" was wrong, as it was still green in April 2010.[1]--AntientNestor (talk) 14:59, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The dubiousness is more to do with the fact that green paint isn't used on British phoneboxes. Battleship grey is used (with red lining/borders) - either in conservation areas, next to listed buildings, or in areas of outstanding natural beauty, but green never has been in the UK. Cream is only used in the Hull area. Even in Ireland, green was only used for the borders (with P&T colours), otherwise cream. Nobody has used green all over. If they have, it wasn't with BT's permission. Kreb (talk) 22:11, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The {{dubious}} tag on WP is used when an "article contains inaccurate statement(s)". The statement here seems to be accurate.--AntientNestor (talk) 07:37, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That statement is dubious, the IoM box was painted green (as was one in the north of England). One assumes that BT gave permission for the change of colour, highly unlikely a reputable film company would do it without. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:28, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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