Talk:Robert Zeidman

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I don’t agree with Mr Zeidman’s political views, but I’m an IEEE member and hold MS and PhD degrees in EE. For the record, I’ve never met or communicated with Zeidman. We (IEEE) only grant awards on technological merit, and even if the author wrote the entire page himself, he’s well within rights to cite these verifiable facts because they are notable and significant. B. Student, CFA (talk) 20:32, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

B. Student, CFA this is a misunderstanding of the issues. All content on wikipedia must be sourced to reliable, independent secondary sources, and no original research is allowed, no matter how much personal knowledge someone has. Melcous (talk) 00:34, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Melcous can you clarify further? Awards granted by IEEE are reliable independent secondary sources. They are granted based on a body of published papers in IEEE and related publications. My understanding of Wikipedia's definition of 'no original research' refers to original research not previously published in a bona fide refereed journal or conference proceedings. My interpretation tacitly assumes that the rule exists because the Wikipedia community has neither the bandwidth nor accreditation to act as academic referees. So, for example, I'm assuming that if Peter Higgs were to summarize portions of his published work in a Wikipedia article on the Higgs Boson it would not violate the rule because Wikipedia is not the original-source-of-publication for the original research.

I could be wrong here - if so it seems to be kind of a silly rule prima facie, ... BUT I acknowledge that I may be under-informed regarding numerous ways the "I-did-my-own-research" crowd and/or articles in shady "pay-for-play" journals might game the system. B. Student, CFA (talk) 20:35, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]