Talk:Ron Chippindale

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POV language ‘biased’

The Erebus crash is an emotive topic with very strong and often quite fixed views especially in defence of the dead pilots. Unfortunately this leave the topic vulnerable to less than ideal language.

The allegation of bias is unsupported.

Quoting Mahon’s lack of confidence in his experience with large airliner crashes rather than smaller aircraft is perhaps unintentionally ironic - Mahon had no prior air accident experience at all, and pushed back in the original proposal he would have expert help.

Of particular note there is a tendency to ignore that the original report blamed the air line for navigation material and sending aircrew used to flying regular airport to airport routes with no Antarctic experience, as well as the pilots, that the pilots when uncertain of their location flew not only low but also slow (so limiting their ability to climb out of trouble) in the presence of not a conical mountain top they hit very low slopes of, but a lot of much higher terrain.

In the wider aviation world this accident is something of a landmark in James Reason’s Swiss cheese model of many holes or causes lining up - not just one fault, something the early report only partly grasped.

Unfortunately there is still a tendency to pick a David against Goliath and champion the David and vilify the honest and imperfect original report, which lacked the pathos and showboat phrasing of Mahon’s but also lacked some of Mahon’s adversarial binary shortfalls, and came from a better understanding of aviation.

Suggest removing unsubstantiated attribution of bias, and Mahon’s less than insightful comment about experience. 49.224.232.215 (talk) 07:29, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]