Talk:Russ Baker (pilot)

Lord F. R. Baker

A family member has made revisions without references apart from Instagram. This encyclopedia requires sources such as Wings over the West cited. Improvements to the article are sought and mistakes should be corrected, but WP:Reliable source is the standard used for taking in data.Rgdboer (talk) 01:07, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

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His grandfather was Lord John Baker, his father was the second son , his name was Henry not (Harry)Francis Reed Baker, a gypsum inventor, not a teacher in England or a Manitoba farmer. His wife was Sara Denton Baker, not His mother was Sara Denton Baker, Great grandad's mother was Lady Sara Russell the daughter of the Duke of Bedford, who came up the western trail to canada who translated the bible into Cree. My Granddad was married to a wealthy society woman and divorced her and married my grandmother. My grandfather walked away from fame, family, and money, he came out west and started his airlines with the 25$ my grandmother saved from her washing money to buy the two way radio. To see family photos of my great grandfather , my grandfather , and my grandmother please visit Instagram @lordhfrbaker. I have read what someone else has been writing here but it is incorrect and it's time the truth be told about my grandfather, he was a strong man that did what he had to do to get it done, as all strong men are described as ruthless, then yes my grand father was. So to the person who just changed what I wrote, you are not family and you gave the wrong information about my family. My grandfathers great uncle was The 5th Earl of Bedfordshire , Bertrand Russell, 1872-1979 , a great man of quotations and he rented his castle out to a nudest colony, also related to Captain Sir Richard Francis Burton. My grandfather was privately tutored as a child and young man, and by the age of 17 was already flying for the Canadian mail service, so some of what is written below this by someone else has some truth in it, but not completely true.

Please try to locate a quotable source for some of this information so that the article can be improved. No doubt John Condit's book has some imperfections.Rgdboer (talk) 01:16, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

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Since people believe they know more about my grandfather then his own granddaughter , that granddaughter being me , I'm a little disturbed that people would come along and erase what the truth is, I knowing the truth about my grandfather and his early years and his family both here in Vancouver as well as my family back East. I'm astonished that such people exist still in this world who think it's nothing to just erase someone else's words on a subject they know nothing about. First my Granfather F.Russ Baker was born to Lord Henry F. R. Baker and Lady Sara Denton. Second- Henry Francis Reed Baker was the son of Lord John Baker and Lady Sara Russell, her father being the Duke of Bedfordshire. Lady Russell came up the old chuck wagon west trail up to Canada from the USA , where she spent her time translating the Bible into The Cree language . Third- Sara Denton became Lady Sara Denton Baker when she married Lord Henry F. R. Baker, they had 4 children, 2 boys, 2 girls. My grandfather Russ Baker was privately instructed by tutors when he was a child and young man, even before he was 17 he was flying airplanes and one of his first jobs was flying for the Canadian mail service. His father was a Masonic who helped invent gypsum , wall board to build walls. My Granfather was also well known to his great uncle Bertrand Russell and when my Granfather was in England he stayed with him at his town home, he rented his castle out to a nudist colony, he was a man of humour , the 5 th Earl of Bedfordshire , a man at giving great quotations, a philosopher, Bertrand Russell -1872-1970. My grandfather Russ Baker was a man with a vision , he did what he had to do to get it done, so if that makes him ruthless in some peoples opinion, then yes he was. He was also married to a wealthy society lady who he divorced and married my Grandmother Margaret Marshall Owen Adair, he left fame, family, money and moved out west to start his airline, my grandmother saved 25$ from her washing money and they bought a two way radio. Please visit Instagram @lordhfrbaker to view private family photos of my grandfather, my grandmother, my great grandfather, my great grand mother , her father with Lord Norman Baker and my granpa Lord Russ Baker as small children, and a photo Russ at the age of 17, and his grandchildren and his youngest daughter , And in truth I over the years would look at this page and just be incredibly sad, and mad at how mixed up it was and the truth not being told about his family history, I'm a historian so I take it very seriously. It never showed the greatness of my grandfather or who he Truly was, and there is so much more I could add about his life, Lastly-some of what is written below by someone else is true but not completely true.-

Further contributions of this type should be made in Talk.Rgdboer (talk) 02:14, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

We have Francis Russell, 7th Duke of Bedford but that article says he had only one son.

As for the gyprock business, we need a reference such as Archives of the Gypsum Association. Perhaps a local newsletter or newspaper from that time could be found to substantiate the claim to invention.

Sarah Russell may be noteworthy enough for her own article if we can verify some of the features of her life you describe: "old chuck wagon west trail" and Bible translation into Cree language. So far I have not found mention of her adventure or translation.Rgdboer (talk) 02:39, 30 November 2014 (UTC)