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Whats the status of the Ushenko? Was it scrapped in '03 as the article suggests? Note the future tense in the article...this needs an update. Dziban303 (talk) 14:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • This entry has NOTHING to contribute and should be eliminated. KIROV is currently the name of the class, i.e. Kirov Class nuclear-powered cruise missile cruiser. In Russian classification it is a TAKR - heavy nuclear-powered cruiser. There are two units of the class remaining in service - one operational (PETR VELIKIY) and one in overhaul (ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV).Fedoroff (talk) 16:30, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion for Admiral Nakhimov

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"Russian Navy modernizes nuclear-powered cruiser Admiral Nakhimov", not Kirov ! https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:L%27amateur_d%27a%C3%A9roplanes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.57.159.220 (talk) 09:06, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Ship's Name

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In Russia and late Soviet Union, ships, named after persons, must be named by "first name + surname" (civilians, like "Yuri Andropov") or "rank+surname" (military, like "Admiral Nakhimov", not "Nakhimov" or "Pavel Nakhimov". If ship's namesaker was Sergei Kirov, ship must be named " Sergei Kirov", not simple "Kirov". Ship named Frunze after city of Kirov (yes, named after Sergei Kirov ))

Nuclear accident during 1989-90 deployment

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There is next to no information about the nuclear accident that occurred aboard ship during the 1989-90 deployment available on the English-language internet. Would need some searching on the Ru-internet, I think. This is the translated segment from the Ru-wiki article, for what it is worth: "[I]n 1990, Kirov was returned from BS2 due to the detected gas density of the first contour of the bow apparatus KN-3 and was eliminated upon arrival at berth 7. In the rest of the ship, the ship was operational, but was withdrawn to the 2nd category reserve due to lack of funds." Clearly there's some translation cleanup required; BS2 may indicate one of the ship's departments. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:15, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My Russian isn't good enough but this is what I can tell you:
First, KN-3 is the type of nuclear reactors, so by "носового аппарата КН-3" they probably mean the bow reactor (the one facing towards the bow, as there are two reactors). I would rather read "газовой неплотности первого контура" as "gas leakage in the primary circuit". KN-3 units are used, as far as I know, in a CONAS (Combined Nuclear and Steam) configuration, where two 300 MW nuclear reactors operate together with (or possibly indepedently of) two 20,000 bhp steam boilers. The reactors, as usual, are PWR (i.e. using pressurized water both as a coolant and as a moderator). I guess "gas" was actually "steam". At any rate, by primary circuit one usually means the circuit a) providing coolant to the core, and b) conveying hot radioactive steam to the heat exchanger... as you can imagine neither is a good place where to have a leak.
They probably shut down the reactor and sailed home using the other, or maybe even just the two steam boilers if these can actually operate independently (some people think they are only used to superheat the steam to be fed to the reactors). Other (generic) info: [1] - [2] - [3]
Mb 3r7864 (talk) 20:45, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.osti.gov/etdeweb/servlets/purl/20752557
  2. ^ https://lynceans.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Part-3_Russia-60-yrs-of-marine-nuc-power.pdf
  3. ^ https://backend.orbit.dtu.dk/ws/portalfiles/portal/172724047/NKS_96_RAK_2TR_C3.pdf

Is this Admiral Ushakov?

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Frankly, the sequence of contradicting statements by politicians and admirals as to these ships is quite confusing.
Google Earth images taken in April-June 2020 (2019 for Pëtr Veliky) show this:

A Kirov-class cruiser appears to be undergoing scrapping here 64°34'34.56"N 39°48'57.05"E (in dry dock). Another is moored beside a submarine here 64°34'48.77"N 39°47'30.97"E (both in Severodvinsk). Given that when the photos were taken Pëtr Veliky was in Severomorsk 69° 5'6.19"N 33°25'27.96"E, while Admiral Lazarev was in Fokino 42°55'46.79"N 132°25'8.75"E, I suppose we might conclude that the cruiser being scrapped is Admiral Ushakov and the one being held in reserve is Admiral Nakhimov. Any objections? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.237.156.250 (talk) 19:15, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above is original research. This link shows that Ushakov is carrying out drills this year. https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/russian-northern-fleet-frequent-exercises-barents-sea-and-white-sea
Ushakov is undergoing refit according to sources on it's Wiki page. 122.150.92.52 (talk) 02:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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