Talk:Sadat

Descendents of Muhammad

The main original meaning of this word seems to have involved descent from muhammad; I've found a few sources which discuss sadat as a class of people (quite a lot of people through history, thanks to many impostors trying to get prestige or tax breaks); usage as a surname may well descend from this. Since there's no other natural title for that concept, and there's already a Sadat (disambiguation) page, I propose moving the existing dab-like content from this page to Sadat (disambiguation), and replacing it with a substantial article about sadat as a concept or a class of people. Plus a couple of hatnotes &c. Any objections? bobrayner (talk) 21:19, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Agree I believe you have those sources ready!—M@sssly^✉ 21:08, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Origin

Another user (Masssly) keeps removing sourced material from the page due to personal opinion. Sadat is a religious surname, it does not belong to an ethnicity, nor is it an ethnic surname. The surname was however founded in the west, particularly in Germany, where they were used as "ornamental," but apparently had no religious significance. This information is from Surname Database, which is an online database, and is a place where many editors have to verify new information before it gets published and is in no way a "personal" website. Another less credible source, (Still something). So I don't see why Masssly has to take down the only thing on this stub article that is sourced due to their personal opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:147:C000:1723:DA1:7A84:8A06:E895 (talk) 20:47, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

These are not my personal reasons please. I've spent quite some amount of time searching for the smallest evidence to corroborate your claim that Sadat is a German name but unfortunately I just can't find any. If you do find something besides "that database" I'll be glad to put it up myself. Before that we cannot accept it the article. Thank you and Good luck in your search. —M@sssly^✉ 21:08, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

It's not German, it's religious. It was just founded there. But I have two additional sources supporting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:147:C000:1723:B049:31F:A3BC:6616 (talk) 13:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Actually, Sadat (or sometimes spelled Saadat) is the Turkish version of the Arabic word "Saadah" which means happiness. TheMiddleEuropeaner (talk) 00:00, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Turkish and Persian?

Sadat is an Arabic surname and those who cary it are descended of arabs so how can they be of persisn descent. Akmal94 (talk) 08:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)