Talk:Sailboat

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Sailing re-organization effort =[edit]

Take a minute to read the comments at Talk:Sailing#Re-write effort -- non how-to et seq. Some of us are working on re-organizing the sailing-related articles. See if you agree with our approach and give us some help. And a big hello dawg to you, dawg. Mrees1997 19:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

merging to saling ships[edit]

This makes no sense sine the topics are vastly unrelated —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kevin Murray (talkcontribs) 19:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

Agreed. Sailboat and sailing ship only share the word sail and thereby the means of propulsion. One look at the pages demonstrates that one is about a now largely outmoded form of transport whereas the second is about a thriving leisure pursuit. One is largely about 200 year old mercantile and warfare issues of large craft the other about a long and still thriving activity by smaller craft manned largely by enthusiasts. Facius 11:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Images[edit]

It looks like there are way too many images on this page; I think we should consider removing some of them, or adding a lot more text. - Davandron | Talk 14:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

---As a sailing school instructor, I have found that images go a long way in explaining the many subtle differences between types of boats. -jcsimms

Instructional images are great. This page is like a scrap book of random pics of peoples own beloved boats. No instructional value, just clutter. Gaff ταλκ 01:34, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Four-master[edit]

There is an article Four-master with this text "Four-master: Large four masted sailboat.", it is unreferenced and orphaned. I do not have enough knowledge about the subject to suggest improvement, merge, or deletion. Jeepday (talk) 02:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Sailing boat[edit]

There is no such word as sailing-boat, it is sailing boat. Google sailing-boat and you’ll get sailing boat! Type in sailing boat and Microsoft word 2007 will not prompt a respelling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.110.226 (talk) 17:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC) See - http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/sailingboat?view=uk

I don't think Bill Gates (Microsoft Word) has yet become the accepted arbiter of good English. Thank goodness. (CJ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.216.80 (talk) 11:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Merge[edit]

I propose a merge with sailing ship as both ship and both are basically the same. See wikipedia's ship-article and wikipedia boat-article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KVDP (talkcontribs) 11:19, 22 August 2008

I'm removing the merge tag as per the argument above, because this seems to have come up before and not gone anywhere. On one level, your merge proposal makes perfect sense; but, as Facius said, modern recreational sailing craft and Age of Sail working vessels (and reproductions, etc) are really apples and oranges. The sailing ship article (although it is, yes, partly about sailboats) also has a huge potential for expansion, and would probably end up getting split into a separate article anyway. If anyone disagrees, though, feel free to re-add the merge tag. --Fullobeans (talk) 19:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps you could rename the article then to eg Recreational sailboat and the sailing ship article to "historical sailboat". Anyone supporting this ? 81.244.205.152 (talk) 10:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
I proposed something similar at Talk:Sailing ship a few days ago. No responses yet. The best way to get some more opinions on this is probably to bring it up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships, but I haven't gotten around to doing so yet. Feel free to beat me to it. --Fullobeans (talk) 17:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Merge: not a good idea. Sailboats and sailing ships are different things. Likewise, to label all sailboats as "recreational" is unnecessary and inaccurate. rowley (talk) 21:23, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Weather vane systems[edit]

Can it be mentioned that, to indicate the direction of the wind, Weather vane systems are sometimes used, relaying the info to a indicator next to the compass ? Sometimes, the systems are even equipped with a anemometer and can calculate the real wind (thus not the apparent wind; which is real wind+wind of mevement on the boat). [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.66.49.3 (talk) 08:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Jib vs Headsail vs Foresail[edit]

In the Sloop section, this article speaks of a mainsail and a jib, and then subdivides jib into foresail, Genoa, and spinnaker. I believe this is incorrect; I have never heard of a spinnaker described as a kind of a jib. It would be more accurate to describe all three of these as headsails, to distinguish them from mainsails. In any case, the categorization is backwards; jib, Genoa and spinnaker are all kinds of foresails (on sloop rigs, more commonly called headsails). I'm changing it accordingly; if anyone can demonstrate that I am in error, I will gladly change it back — and I will come sail on your boat. rowley (talk) 22:44, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I changed the "wing on wing" discussion in the Sloop area. It was wrong, it identified having two jibs sailed off a single forestay, where either jib was sailed on the opposite board. I'm not even sure this would work -- how would the sheets look? Would there be four sheets, two on each side or something? This would mean each jib carr would handle two sheets? Yikes. Sounds like trouble. Anyway, it now reads something about the mainsail and the headsail being on different boards. Sliceofmiami (talk) 22:49, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Sailboat/Sailingboat[edit]

At the moment there is no coherent term, I think it would be better if the aritcle was renamed and the term Sailboat/Sailingboat and both terms be used throughout (Fdsdh1 (talk) 14:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC))

Generally, wikipedia style guides require one title per article. It is permissible to show there are alternate terms in the intro line as this article does now. The style guide then requires one term be used throughout the article for clarity. Someone who is more experienced than I can give the references to the style guides if you need to see them. Ken Heaton (talk) 14:57, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

New photos on Commons that might interest you[edit]

Hi everyone who watches this article. I recently uploaded a set of photos from the Svenska litteratursällskapet i Finland of some sailboats. You can find them on Commons here. Hope they are of some use for you! SarahStierch (talk) 15:55, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Some issues[edit]

1. All that information came from just 4 sources, (3 by the same author) according to the references list.
2. None of the references are linked to the information (not 'in-line')
3. The section titled "Hulls" does not explain what a hull is.
4. The section titled "Hulls" mentions mono-hulls in passing in the first paragraph, then spends 3 paragraphs on multihulls.
5. The section titled "Hulls" atributes some remarkable attributes to multi-hulls. "... acceleration to top speed is near-instantaneous." is my personal favourite.
7. The section titled "Hulls" compares multi-hulls to mono-hulled keel-boats, but makes no mention of 'off the beach' dinghys.
8. The section titled "Hulls" was perhaps written by a fan of multi-hulls? (tongue in cheek, but kinda true.)
9. The Types section mentions a Dohni, a boat from the Maldives and presumably of relatively limited number, as being like a dhow, a boat which wikipedia describes as operating in "Eastern Arabia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and East Africa." Perhaps the dhow deserves an entry?
10. The External Links provided aren't all that helpful. I've deleted two Class specific links and added the ISAF site.

Hmmm. That's prolly enough for now. Wayne 19:01, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ Sailing for dummies by JJ Isner, Peter Isner