Talk:Saul Goodman

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University?[edit]

Introducing the character his diploma is briefly shown. It was issued by a third world diploma mill. I can't remember the episode. Has anyone information on this? 84.152.46.81 (talk) 02:24, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

It's the University of American Samoa (which doesn't seem to exist), as can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdhTL5G32Gw 91.22.18.21 (talk) 18:18, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Renaming Article[edit]

Now that Breaking Bad is over would it be appropriate AFTER the new series "Better Call Saul" premieres to rename the article to something like Saul Goodman (TV character) since Saul Goodman will not longer just be a Breaking Bad character. What do y'all think. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 16:37, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Jane's death an overdose[edit]

"Jesse discovers that Jane has died from choking..." Jane's "choking" is incidental to her dying of a heroin overdose. 66.191.43.60 (talk) 07:30, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. DrKiernan (talk) 11:12, 1 February 2014 (UTC)


– I've never watched a second of Breaking Bad, nor do I intend to, but this appears to be a clear case of a fictional character being WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over a real person. It feels a bit uncomfortable, but it happens, such as in the cases of Peter Parker or Frank Burns (neither of which, for what it's worth, are even article titles). I'm also sensitive to the fact that this may reflect recentism, but it's very unlikely that a percussionist who died almost 20 years ago is going to be increasing in notability, whereas a character about to have his own show is likely to do just that. This also solves the issue, raised above, of disambiguating by one series title when the character is going to be in two, though this isn't a huge problem itself.

The page views make me feel bad for the poor timpanist. With 166 views for him last month compared to 32,747 for the character, how many of the 853 views of the dab do you suppose were looking for each of them? --BDD (talk) 19:43, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

  • Support Does appear to be primary topic based on traffic and incoming links, unsurprisingly top web search results for "Saul Goodman" currently all refer to the character. Impressively long spell in the NYPO though, kudos to the real Saul Goodman. benmoore 21:05, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. As loth as I am to admit, even at a serious encyclopedia, sometimes fake people are more important than real ones. My crystal ball says there is an additional problem with the current title noted above. By the way, if the article is moved, delete the disambiguation page per WP:TWODABS and put a hatnote on this article after the move. —  AjaxSmack  18:23, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • We don't have to decide importance here, thank God. All we do is decide how much attention an encyclopedia should pay to them. Easy support. (WP:TWODABS anyone?) Red Slash 04:15, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
    • It isn't 2DABS, there's three entries there to three articles that contain information on three different Saul Goodmans. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 07:00, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
      • Not by the letter of it so much as the spirit. Red Slash 01:15, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Easy support - Almost every single reference to Saul Goodman refers to the fictional character, and it is only expected to increase in November 2014, when Better Call Saul is expected to premiere. It could be a tentative support if many others were named Saul Goodman, but there's only one other person with the name with an article on Wikipedia. Ithinkicahn (talk) 00:55, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
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Saul Goodman (disambiguation)[edit]

After the move enacted in the above discussion, which I fully support, the page Saul Goodman (disambiguation) is now an orphan page, as it is now unnecessary and has been stranded and is not linked from any page. Should this page be deleted? Ithinkicahn (talk) 20:27, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Leave it be. It has three entries, and this article is incorrectly disambiguated, so it should be linked. -- 70.50.148.248 (talk) 01:14, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Sourcing Issues[edit]

Hi everyone. I Just wanted to point out that this article is very thin on sources and citations. In particular the plot summaries are giving off the distinct odor of WP:OR. Please be sure that any substantive material added to the article is properly cited. Thanks! -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:19, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Prison Break24, I think the source you provided for this edit is probably acceptable because it is extremely narrow and generally non-controversial. But I would have serious reservations about using a blog for any sort of substantive editing or addition of material to the body of the article. Blogs are almost never considered reliable sources. A great deal of this article is clearly composed of original research, and that is a no no on here. I am not (at least for now) going to start deleting whole sections. But I am going to be keeping an eye on the article, and I will revert attempts to add more material without proper references and citations. This article has serious problems and is not up to encyclopedic standards. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:55, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Better Call Saul plot synopsis is too long[edit]

Hi Floramaegillett and thanks for your contributions to the article. But please remember that this is an encyclopedia, not a blog. Recaps of episodes should be kept to essential details and generally limited to a paragraph if at all possible. While we are not limited by paper, we don't want the article to become so excessively detailed that it becomes unwieldy. I'm not sure the recap of episode 1 could get any more detailed without just posting the script, lol. If a more detailed account is called for then perhaps a separate article dedicated to the episodes might need to be created. But even there, I would say that this is too much. I don't want to revert your recent edits that you clearly put some effort into, but you really do need to trim that down. If we give this much detail to each episode, the article is going to look like a small book by the end of episode three. Also remember that everything added to the article needs a reliable source. And we try not to lean too much on sources that have a direct connection with the subject of the article. Thanks again... -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Additional aliases[edit]

James McGill/Saul Goodman has used Special Agent Jeffrey Steele and Viktor as aliases on the show Better Call Saul. Is this worth adding to the list? My edit was rejected but it might be worth considering.Baudelairesspectre (talk) 03:24, 17 April 2016 (UTC)