Talk:Scepsis
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[edit]I added a map. Alekjds talk 02:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Let's pin down the locations of Skepsis and Palae-Skepsis
[edit]The link of current note 1 to Bayramiç is to the wrong Bayramiç, linking to a city northwest of the Sea of Marmara instead of the Bayramiç village and town (I think) north of Kaz Dağı (Mount Ida). I will fix it soon, but first I want to pin down the actual locations of ancient Skepsis and Palae-Skepsis which, based on an initial effort, may not be easy. This is information I need, so I will continue the effort but perhaps someone knows the actual latitude and longitude coordinates of these places, somewhere on or near the north slope of Ida. — Blanchette (talk) 17:50, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]Well, Palae-Skepsis is a challenge, but the location of the Archaic/Classical city is well known as a search of Turkish articles will attest. I have located a good map showing where early 20th-century scholars located Skepsis in Walter leaf's Strabo on the Troad and here is a map excerpt with the following description:
- Portion of the fold-out map titled "The Troad: After Kiepert & Philippson with corrections by Walter Leaf" included in Leaf's translation and commentary titled "Strabo on the Troad", Cambridge, 1923. This excerpt is centered on the archaic and classical Greek city of Skepsis, its name rendered in red as are other ancient locations on the map. The orthogonal portions of the latitude and longitude scales from the edges of the complete map (i.e., 39° 30' - 40°N and 26° 30' - 27°E) are copied to the edges of this excerpt to identify the coordinates of Skepsis. Leaf (p. 270) credits (Walther?) Judeich with clarifying Strabo's confusion about the location of Skepsis when he found an inscription with a proxeny decree by the town of Skepsis in situ:
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Location_of_Skepsis%2C_map_excerpt_from_Leaf%2C_Strabo_on_the_Troad_%281923%29.png/220px-Location_of_Skepsis%2C_map_excerpt_from_Leaf%2C_Strabo_on_the_Troad_%281923%29.png)
Using Google Earth and Bing Maps, I have verified that the photo accompanying this article [[1]] was taken from a position close to that of a photo looking southeast from Skepsis appearing as Plate XVI-B in Leaf's volume. The landscape features from the 2009 photo are identifiable on the Bing and Google maps and the Google Earth and Leaf XVI-B mountain skylines match. I changed the coordinates previously given in this article to the correct ones. —Blanchette (talk) 00:20, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Update: Replaced text link with map thumbnail in above post. —Blanchette (talk) 14:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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