Talk:Screw anchor

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I'd love to help but can't right now except for tell you to please link it to the german wikipedia.de page article "dübel". i had to look for a while to find out it was the right translation because the german "dübel" page links to the english "dowel" page which correctly links back to "holzdübel" which obviously is a completely different tool. someone please fix it. cause i cant.

Thx.

This is fixed: The German Dübel article, which nicely handles many different types of screw anchors and wall plugs in one article, is correctly linked to this article. Dowels, however, are correctly (imo) handled sepearetly in Holzdübel. Methylene Blue 17:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Merge screw anchor with wall plug[edit]

As far as I can tell, these two articles are the same topic, though perhaps with some subtle difference in scope. The wall plug article is illustrated with a photo of a bunch of expansion anchors, for example. It would be easier to characterize the types and their evolution in one article. Please support or oppose here. Dicklyon 21:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support since I proposed it. Dicklyon 21:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Caution. If I understand the text of the articles correctly, a wall plug is just one type of screw anchor among several. They would be the same as what this article calls expansion anchors (or lead anchors or plastic anchors if made of plastic), other types being toggle bolts (I think I know what these are) and molly bolts (?). Having said that, I'm all in favour of a consolidated article handling different types of fasteners with closely related uses, replacing a plethora of stubs on the individual types with redirects to a proper article. --Lambiam 02:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That's right. The wall plugs would be either expansion anchors or a separate section; I'm not sure which. Dicklyon 02:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Caution. I am not sure if this helps the discussion, but the terms wall plug and rawl plug are the only ones in general parlance in the UK. If someone mentioned a screw anchor, the majority of people would not know what they are talking about. Arseyg (talk) 20:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I am very much in favor of handling screw anchors and wall plugs as one article, as the German Dübel article does! Let's do it! Methylene Blue 17:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Caution. I'm in general in favour of a merged article, but I share Arsegy's concern in that before this, I had never heard of the term 'screw anchor', whereas wall plug and rawlplug are understood in my neck of the woods (Singapore). The Shorter Oxford defines both wall plug and rawlplug as a dowel. Is 'screw anchor' an American term? Peterktan (talk) 03:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, what you call a wall plug we call a screw anchor in the U.S., or lead anchor or plastic anchor; it anchors a screw. We call an electrical outlet a wall plug. Dicklyon (talk) 05:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Against A "screw anchor" is more commonly used (UK anyway) as a misnomer for a shield anchor, a substantial steel device made of several loosely connected parts. Wall plugs are a distinctive term that is unambiguously seen as referring to the lighter-load fibre or plastic plugs. If anything, some content from screw anchor might merge to wall plug and screw anchor itself could become a mere disambig. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support One article can handle a section calling attention to how the term is used differently in different areas and still explain what both are and still be short. I say merge. Qaz (talk) 18:37, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support They seem to generally be the same thing. Merge together with a section to explain the differences, and/or differences in names in different countries. Slokunshialgo (talk) 20:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support The combined article needs to have a title that is neither of the present ones, understandable to anyone's English. "Plug-type wall anchor for screws:...dowel-like soft material accepting a sheet metal or wood screw, inserted into a (typically masonry wall) hole, which anchors the screw when it is expanded by the screw's volume" The combined article also needs to have information in it. Rawl's anchor seems to be about using fibre as a replacement for wooden dowels. Didn't lead anchors exist then in UK? Were Rawl's better or just cheaper? Rawl is a famous hardware name in US also, but not the term "wall plug"; why? (Look in Popular Mechanics around 1920?) What is the technology of the workable dimensions of plug, hole diameter, and screw thread volume? Any patents cite special pull-out strength etc? etc...173.73.179.150 (talk) 03:18, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Terminology[edit]

Just a quicky but in English, as opposed to American, I would believe that 'screw anchor' refers to a type of ground anchor, so I think some further disambiguation is required here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.85.37.229 (talk) 19:22, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]