|WikiProject Computer Security / Computing||(Rated C-class, High-importance)|
|WikiProject Computing||(Rated C-class, Low-importance)|
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- 1 Jibberish
- 2 Insecure editing?
- 3 Some edits should be checked...
- 4 What to do about all the vendors
- 5 Local keyboard, first and second security factor, needs rewrite
- 6 Paper printed security tokens?
- 7 Crows can count. Can we?
- 8 ArrayShield and other vendors
- 9 Laptop only?
- 10 RE: Incomprehensible English
This is not an encylopedia article, it is jibberish that nobody can understand. What is a token? How do you use it? Does it work with browsers, if so how? Can you use it for bank login online? These are the kinds of questions the public are interested in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 12:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think you have a valid point. I have made several edits to try to make the page more public friendly and a little easier to read. See additional comments below. --Tigereye7 (talk) 15:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
The article starts with an incomplete or inconsistent list: There are five (5) types of tokens: 1.Static password. 2.Synchronous dynamic password 3.Asynchronous password 4.Challenge response — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 16:57, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Yes, this is the Wikipedia, any one can edit and help make it better. And if you do bad edits others will discover that and fix it. --David Göthberg 16:41, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Some edits should be checked...
Some recent (as of August 2007) edits consist mostly in deletion of wikilinks allegedly not working. I assume good faith as much as the next person, but somebody could have deleted overzealously. Could someone expert in this filed check if anything is amiss, by having a look at this article's history? Happy editing, --Goochelaar 22:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- I looked through edits from that period and I don't see any useful internal links that have been lost. -- Beland (talk) 18:18, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
What to do about all the vendors
I made several edits trying to clean the page up and make it less of an advert but the bottom section is still a mess. This page is turning into a vendor circus. Its too commercial and confusing. I think it might make more sense to focus on general the types and limit the vendors to brief mentions or references if they illustrate a specific point. Any comments on this? --Tigereye7 (talk) 16:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Why exactly does it matter if it's written as an Ad? In my point of view if we get to learn a bit more about said brand of product, it's a good thing. The point of advertising is to describe the benefits of a product. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 03:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think anything in this article as it now stands reads as an advertisement. It is a fairly balanced (but possibly incomplete) overview of the various forms commonly referred to as being part of the "Security Token" technology, and includes a list of vendors (which could be more complete). Including lists of available products and vendors in computer technology articles on Wikipedia is a fairly common thing to do, either in the main article or in a supplemental "Comparison of ..." article.
- The edit at 14:53, 11 October 2012 removed most vendor information from the sections describing the various technologies. I just created a section called "Notable vendors and models", which I think will be a cleaner way of presenting this information, separate from the technical information. We have a number of articles which are comparisons of vendor products, and this is certainly useful information to readers, as long as it doesn't stray into the self-promotional. Sticking to verifiable and objective facts, it is helpful to get a sense of the marketplace and the current state of technology. For this article, some of the information that was removed highlights technological innovations particular to specific products; that might be interesting to re-incorporate into the article in some way. For now, I have simply created a list of vendors and names of products, without much description, based on what was mentioned in older versions of the article. There is probably some sorting out to do as to which are "notable" and which, if any, need to be removed. -- Beland (talk) 21:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Local keyboard, first and second security factor, needs rewrite
From article: "The client enters the number to a local keyboard as displayed on the token (second security factor), usually along with a PIN (first security factor), when asked to do so."
That is an ungentle start of the section. What is a local keyboard. What is displayed on the token. What is the first and second security factor. What is the whole context of doing this.
Paper printed security tokens?
What about small papers (often creditcard-sized) with some kode/key pairs printed on them? Some banks use that.
Do they also belong in the definition of a security toke?
- I think you are referring to a one-time pad? I added some links to that article in appropriate spots. -- Beland (talk) 18:55, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think that the small transaction authentication number paper documents, containing a printed list of one-time passwords, should be mentioned in this article. I suspect that's what 184.108.40.206 was talking about, since many banks have issued TANs, but I've never heard of any bank using a one-time pad. --DavidCary (talk) 03:26, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Crows can count. Can we?
There are five types of tokens: 1. Static password. 2. Synchronous dynamic password 3. Asynchronous password 4. Challenge response
ArrayShield and other vendors
I just moved an added listing about ArrayShield to a token-type category. If this is not the correct category, feel free to move it or if there is truly no category that fits, create a new one and explain the reasoning on this talk page. The last thing we need is every vendor under the sun making their own category and making this page more hairy that it is already. Descriptions should be objective, not promotional. Also, links should be relegated to references. If anyone disagrees or has something to add, I welcome your comments. Tigereye7 (talk) 15:40, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
"Older PC card tokens are made to only work with laptops"
RE: Incomprehensible English
not a regular Wikipedia editor, but upon scanning the article, looking for information on the subject, I noticed that alot of the English seems to be very oddly written (perhaps by a non-native speaker?). One particularly confusing example I found below during a quick scan:
"The major threat is by incautious operation. Users shall be aware of permanent options of threat."
The first sentence is comprehensible, if badly written, but the second is a mystery to me. Plenty of other similar examples I noticed during an only cursory read - a fair amount of rewriting seems to be requred. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 07:25, 20 October 2017 (UTC)