Talk:Shades of black

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It would probably be better to have this be called "Shades of black" and then create a link at the top to the Shades of Black page. This topic is much more likely to be what people are searching for... Arided (talk) 09:04, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Variations of vs shades of.[edit]

It was decided a while back to use "shades of..." for these types of articles. Notice that if you hide the redirects a bunch of the pages starting with variations of disappear. Variations. Shades. See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Color#RfC: "Shades of red" vs "Variations of red" or "Tones of red"?. PaleAqua (talk) 01:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Even if my initial argument is wrong, a "shade of black" is inappropriate in any way. See user talk:Keraunos#Strictly speaking, a “_ of black” would be a neutral gray (fill in the blank). I do not insist on "Variations of", but "Shades of black" is ignorant and abhorrent. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes shades of is not technically correct in terms of color theory, that said last time this came up it was decided to use the colloquial meaning and not the technical meaning. See WP:TITLE, note the criteria section. Most people when talking of shades don't just mean how much black was added, but colors that are similar to. Note that the shades of white article has similar naming issues. I wonder if "Off-white" or "Off-white colors" ( see [1] ) and "Near black" or "Near black colors" ( [2] ). Seems off is used more for white, and near more for black at least according to a quick ngram check. Off-white already is a redirect to Shades of white. PaleAqua (talk) 08:48, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
No, shades of white does not have any problem different from shades of blue or shades of red. Improve your understanding of the term "shade". Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:24, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Ignoring the issue of white point, basic color terms such as red or blue actually cover a range of hues. While and black are achromatic colors, which means purely adding black (shades) or adding white (tints) doesn't cover adding hue. One thing to note is that shades has multiple meanings and while it has a more narrow meaning in color theory, it has a broader meaning as well. Checking several dictionaries there are definitions like 8b "a color slightly different from the one under consideration" as well as the meanings of adding black, or shadow. PaleAqua (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

CMYK black[edit]

I'm fairly certain that CMYK(0, 0, 0, 0) doesn't give black. Yet the info box for black says so. :) Is RGB(0, 0, 0) CMYK(75, 68, 67, 90)? (talk) 20:52, 7 October 2013 (UTC)