Talk:Siege of Ruad

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Battle of Homs??

This article references a "battle of Homs" in 1303. I can find no reference to this elsewhere, except (perhaps) an attack on the city of Homs at that time. Can someone help me?? MapMaster (talk) 22:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From Alain Demurger Jacques de Molay, p.158, I have "Les généraux Ghazan, Mulay, Kutlushah, furent défais a Homs le 30 Mars et a Shaqhab, au sud de Damas, le 21 Avril" (in English: "The generals Ghazan, Mulay, Kutlushah, were defeated at Homs on March 30th, and at Shaqab, south of Damas, on April 21"). The April 21 battle would be the Battle of Marj al-Saffar‎ (near Homs). I don't known if the Homs ecounter has ever been called "Fourth battle of Homs", or what its official name would be. Cheers PHG (talk) 06:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some additional facts and references

Some additional suggested facts and references for this article, mainly taken from Malcolm Barber and Peter Jackson. Cheers PHG (talk) 19:56, 10 July 2008 (UTC):[reply]

The aim of the occupation of Arwad by the Templars and Cypriots was to link up with the Mongol troops of Ghazan.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]
Ghazan had invited the Cypriots to participate to operations against the Mamluks,^[5] in late 1299.^[6]
The Cypriots prepared a land-based force of approximately 600 men: 300 under Amalric of Lusigan, son of Hugh III of Cyprus, and similar contingents from the Templars and Hospitallers.^[7]
These efforts were led by the Master of the Knights Templar Jacques de Molay and the brother of the king of Cyprus, Amalric of Lusigan.^[8]
This was not a small operation, but actually represented a considerable commitment by the forces from Cyprus and the Templars.^[9] According to historian Malcom Barber, this suggests a considerable effort on the part of the Templars, as the manpower being engaged corresponds to "close to half the size of the normal complement for the twelfth-century Kingdom of Jerusalem".^[10]
In February 1301, the Mongols finally made and advance into Syria. General Kutlushka went to Cilicia to fetch Armenian troops and moved south through Antioch. He was also accompanied by Guy of Ibelin, Count of Jaffa, and John, lord of Giblet.^[11] He had a force of 60,000, but could do little else than engage in some raids around Syria.

References

^ The Trial of the Templars By Malcolm Barber, Page 22 [1]
^ The Mongols and the West, 1221-1410: 1221-1410 By Peter Jackson, Page 171 [2]
^ The Kingdom of Cyprus and the Crusades, 1191-1374: 1191-1374 By Peter W. Edbury, Page 105 [3]
^ The Knights Hospitaller By Helen Nicholson Page 45 [4]
^ The Trial of the Templars By Malcolm Barber, Page 22 [5]
^ The Knights Hospitaller By Helen Nicholson Page 45 [6]
^ The Trial of the Templars By Malcolm Barber, Page 22 [7]
^ The Trial of the Templars By Malcolm Barber, Page 22 [8]
^ The Kingdom of Cyprus and the Crusades, 1191-1374: 1191-1374 By Peter W. Edbury, Page 105 [9]
^ Malcom Barber, The New Knighthood, p. 294 [10]
^ The Kingdom of Cyprus and the Crusades, 1191-1374: 1191-1374 By Peter W. Edbury, Page 105 [11]

Merge

Discussion about a possible merge is ongoing at Talk:Ruad expedition. --El on ka 05:11, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[1] The Trial of the Templars By Malcolm Barber, Page 22 [1]

[2] The Mongols and the West, 1221-1410: 1221-1410 By Peter Jackson, Page 171 [2]

[3] The Kingdom of Cyprus and the Crusades, 1191-1374: 1191-1374 By Peter W. Edbury, Page 105 [3]

[4] The Knights Hospitaller By Helen Nicholson Page 45 [4]

[5] The Trial of the Templars By Malcolm Barber, Page 22 [5]

[6] The Knights Hospitaller By Helen Nicholson Page 45 [6]

[7] The Trial of the Templars By Malcolm Barber, Page 22 [7]

[8] The Trial of the Templars By Malcolm Barber, Page 22 [8]

[9] The Kingdom of Cyprus and the Crusades, 1191-1374: 1191-1374 By Peter W. Edbury, Page 105 [9]

[10] Malcom Barber, The New Knighthood, p. 294 [10]

[11] The Kingdom of Cyprus and the Crusades, 1191-1374: 1191-1374 By Peter W. Edbury, Page 105 [11]

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