Talk:Sigyn (ship)

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Most info for the infobox is available, but my English is not good enough to know the nuances of some fields.

• image: in the article
• year of launch:1887 (nothing known about the planning)
• shipyard: Gamla Varvet, Gothenburg, Sweden
• built for: George Douglas Kennedy, Gothenburg
• owner: about five as merchant vessel and probably three as museum ship (rearrangements), I can check the ones not mentioned GDK, Anders Svensson (1905-1918), Salsåkers Å. (1918-1925), Johan Siegfrid Ziegler (1925-1927), Arthur Lundqvist (1927-1935), Fredrik Wennström & co (1935-1939)
• country: built in Sweden, sailed under Swedish flag to 1927, sold to Åland (Finland) for continued service
• home harbour: as merchant ship: Gothenburg, Salsåker Råå, one I can check Halmstad, Råå, Vårdö
• original cost (I'll check whether in the source, if my memory serves there is only a estimate based on a brig barque of similar size) – no, not known.
• fate/status: what is suposed to be where?
• class, sail plan: barque (barquentine 1913-197x)?
• propulsion: no engine, is that "sail"?
• hold depth: quite low, without dividing deck
• length: LOA 57.5 m, LWL 42.7 (is it supposed to be LOA, LWL or length of the hull?)
• beam: 9.0 m
• draft/draught (what's the difference?): 4.0 m
• burthen (?): 500 ton (tons/tonnes?) deadweight, I do not know what tons were used at the time in Sweden, the author of the source probably supposed they were metric; I can check the register ton figures (378 brt, 356 net)
• sail area: 1000 m²
• maiden voyage=I'll check (Gothenburg-Southampton)
• identification=I'll check (this is the flag signal, isn't it?)
• speed=best known day average 11.5 knots
• crew=10-11: captain, first mate, second mate or "constable", cooksteward, carpenter or sailmaker, boatswain, two able seamen, one ordinary seaman, two youngmen (I'll check the eleventh). Some of boatswain/carpenter/sailmaker/seamen could be combined, the exact configuration varied. That is mate, helmsman, lookout and one for other duties per watch.

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I am not sure about what these last ones mean, how they should be used or whether they are relevant.

Could somebody from the ships project please fill out the template and ask about things I should check?

--LPfi (talk) 13:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Some links that may be of interrest for non-swedish speakers:

• sailing-ships.oktett.net: Timeline of Sigyn (just to confirm what is in the article; source unknown)
  • sailing-ships.oktett.net: Barque (mentions Sigyn as the last wooden barque; source unknown)
• virtual Turku: Sigyn view in Java (in Finnish)
• Sigyn info at Forum Marinum
• Institute of Maritime History at Åbo Akademi University, where most documents about Sigyn can be found (in Swedish)
• Grönstrand, Lars: Rigging the Sigyn. Text and sketches by Lars Grönstrand (1909-1993). Translation from Swedish to English: Jocelyn & Allan Palmer. Reports from the Institute of Maritime History at Åbo Akademi University 26, Åbo 2004, 60 s. ISBN 952-12-1344-2

--LPfi (talk) 16:40, 10 December 2008 (UTC)