Talk:Sir Hereward Wake, 13th Baronet/GA1
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Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 13:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I'll take this one. Feel free to challenge any of my comments you think to be incorrect!
- No copyvio detected
- Duplicated links: aide de camp and Courteenhall
- File:King's Royal Rifle Corps by Harry Payne.JPG needs a US PD tag. It's also not the highest quality image and while I think it works as is, a replacement would not go amiss if possible. Other images are good.
Lede[edit]
- "Born into an historic noble family" - This is probably just me but I would much prefer this to read "Born into an historic and noble family"
- "...commanded the 4th battalion" - to capitalise or not to capitalise the "B"? You use "4th Battalion" in the infobox; you change between capitalising battalion and not doing so throughout the article.
- I've seen it both ways, decapitalised all for consistency
- Link Territorial Army
- The infobox states that he died in Winchester but this is not stated or cited in the main text.
- Ibid for the awarding of his CB.
Early life[edit]
- The reference for his date of birth only says he was born in 1876, not that it was on 11 February; the reference for his DOB in the infobox will be unnecessary if this is fixed.
- "Hereward Wake was educated at Eton College and could speak French." - Did he learn French at Eton or is this an aside? What makes this anything but trivia?
Boer war[edit]
- "He was wounded in action and was mentioned in dispatches on 3 February and 9 March 1900." - was he wounded in action on the dates that he was also mentioned in dispatches? Could be clarified
- "He was awarded the regimental rank" - awarded isn't the right word for this. Perhaps "advanced to" or "confirmed in"?
First World War[edit]
- "held a position at the War Office." - can you expand on what this position was?
- References 13 and 14 link to error pages
- I think you could provide some more detail on his WW1 service. For example this [1] PhD thesis highlights his work on the Supreme War Council and his role heading 'E' branch reviewing enemy strategy. It also seems his staff service was closely linked to Sir Henry Wilson which might be worth noting.
- Roade needs linking
Later career[edit]
- Again, Territorial Army needs linking
Personal life[edit]
- "The Wakes lived at the ancestral home" - "The Wakes lived at their ancestral home"?
- Link Bicester
- Unless it correlates to a previous piece of information I've missed, "war department" needs linking to something.
- Link Dover Castle
- "Wake owned a 1599 painting of Drue Drury." - seems trivial.
- Reference 30 links to the generic FamilySearch sign in page, needs changing or noting that an account is required etc
- Reference 32 needs a note that a Times account is required to read
That's all I have for now. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 13:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your review and suggestions Pickersgill-Cunliffe. That PhD thesis was especially useful. I think I've addressed everything above - Dumelow (talk) 16:03, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Having had a further delve I've also come across this [2] which provides his roles as GSO3, GSO2, AND GSO1, and this [3] which as well as briefly mentioning Wake on occasion provides an image of Wake and Roberts' staff in 1900. Further comments:
- "and was awarded the Distinguished Service Order on 29 November 1900." - the article states that Wake was on the staff until 1 March 1901 but this section suggests he was awarded the DSO for his work in The Orange Free State, et al, before this staff period had ended. Should be clarified and/or the chronology changed to make more sense.
- The first mention of Amery is now before your link and introduction of him.
- If you're going to stylise "'E Branch'" as such then you should do the same for "A Branch"
- Link keep
- Reference 7 has an error (WOlverhampton)
- With all the changes made to the article I'd suggest an update to the lede to reflect this.
- Similarly, the references section has grown considerably and I think a separate bibliography section to house your long-form book citations would not go amiss, allowing you to make the references themselves simpler in short-form.
- - Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 16:22, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks again Pickersgill-Cunliffe, another good PhD find. I've incorporated the info from your first link but couldn't access the second (it prompts me to log in). I've got the lead and refs still to sort otherwise - Dumelow (talk) 19:13, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- Happy with all the changes you have made; some of those new sources were great finds. Passing as satisfying the good article criteria. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 12:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Pickersgill-Cunliffe for a great GA review, the article has really improved over the past few days - Dumelow (talk) 19:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Happy with all the changes you have made; some of those new sources were great finds. Passing as satisfying the good article criteria. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 12:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks again Pickersgill-Cunliffe, another good PhD find. I've incorporated the info from your first link but couldn't access the second (it prompts me to log in). I've got the lead and refs still to sort otherwise - Dumelow (talk) 19:13, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Having had a further delve I've also come across this [2] which provides his roles as GSO3, GSO2, AND GSO1, and this [3] which as well as briefly mentioning Wake on occasion provides an image of Wake and Roberts' staff in 1900. Further comments: