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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 01:23, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- I will do this review.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:23, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- Great. Thank you. I Am... ***D.D. 11:18, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- According to the toolbox, the page has no disambiguation link issues and no external link issues.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:18, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- Composition
- I am concerned about the extensive lyric quotation in the final paragraph. It seems like a potential WP:COPYVIO. I am going to request that you get approval at WP:CP to include this content.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:29, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- Please notify me about the reply.I Am... ***D.D. 16:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- I am requesting that you get the approval.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:52, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: Great, thank you. I Am... ***D.D. 01:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- This is the only issue remaining. Have you posted a query yet?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:05, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: Umm, no. But on a second thought if you agree I'd remove the lines because they do not add anything to the article. The Baltimore Sun article was the only source to list Williams's verses without even discussing their meaning. If someone wants to read the lyrics they can do it in the link provided in the External links section. I Am... ***D.D. 19:09, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oddly, I am not seeing this ping above. Something is wrong with my notifications. However, I am watching the page. You will need to chop out most of the third paragraph of this section if you don't want to inquire at WP:CP.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:30, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think I'm
Done. I Am... ***D.D. 17:36, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- What is your justification for the remaining verses in that paragraph?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:50, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Well they are not as lengthy as the one I removed. Lyrics are used in song articles all the time. You can check FAs Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It), Halo (Beyoncé song) etc. I Am... ***D.D. 18:13, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- If you think they belong, ping WP:CP. The worst that can happen is that they ask you to remove them.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:04, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- I submited the article there. I Am... ***D.D. 02:25, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: There is no response after two days that I submited the article. I Am... ***D.D. 09:08, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- I believe every issue there gets responded to although it may take a week or two.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:43, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- I interpret this as saying you need to provide direct support from critical commentary ifyou want to retain the current amount of lyrical detail. Otherwise you need to trim further.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:24, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- I trimmed the third paragraph and merged it with the second one as it was too short to stand alone. I Am... ***D.D. 18:49, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- I interpret this as saying you need to provide direct support from critical commentary ifyou want to retain the current amount of lyrical detail. Otherwise you need to trim further.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:24, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- I believe every issue there gets responded to although it may take a week or two.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:43, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: There is no response after two days that I submited the article. I Am... ***D.D. 09:08, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- I submited the article there. I Am... ***D.D. 02:25, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- If you think they belong, ping WP:CP. The worst that can happen is that they ask you to remove them.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:04, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Well they are not as lengthy as the one I removed. Lyrics are used in song articles all the time. You can check FAs Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It), Halo (Beyoncé song) etc. I Am... ***D.D. 18:13, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- What is your justification for the remaining verses in that paragraph?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:50, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think I'm
- Oddly, I am not seeing this ping above. Something is wrong with my notifications. However, I am watching the page. You will need to chop out most of the third paragraph of this section if you don't want to inquire at WP:CP.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:30, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: Umm, no. But on a second thought if you agree I'd remove the lines because they do not add anything to the article. The Baltimore Sun article was the only source to list Williams's verses without even discussing their meaning. If someone wants to read the lyrics they can do it in the link provided in the External links section. I Am... ***D.D. 19:09, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- This is the only issue remaining. Have you posted a query yet?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:05, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: Great, thank you. I Am... ***D.D. 01:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- I am requesting that you get the approval.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:52, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Chart performance
How many hot 100 weeks in the top 10?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:49, 20 August 2014 (UTC)"from which four were in the top ten", I believe the proper construct is "of which four were in the top ten"--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:49, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- I can't find information for the first one. I would have to go and see each week it charted. I corrected the second one.I Am... ***D.D. 16:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Can't you use List of Billboard Hot 100 top 10 singles in 2005 to figure out which weeks you need and say when it entered and exited the top 10, implying that it was consecutive.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:07, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Done
- What is sourcing the added content?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Actually there is no specific source which indicates how many weeks it spent in the top ten. I had to check the chart week by week and find out.— Preceding unsigned comment added by My love is love (talk • contribs) 11:27, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- If you were able to check the charts please add ICs from the last week it was in the top 10 and the first week it was not. Use these as sources and reword accordingly.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Actually there is no specific source which indicates how many weeks it spent in the top ten. I had to check the chart week by week and find out.— Preceding unsigned comment added by My love is love (talk • contribs) 11:27, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- What is sourcing the added content?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Done. Please check if it is OK now. I Am... ***D.D. 14:48, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Can you fill in the source a little bit more. Look at the Billboard ICs from my Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song) FA.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'm not quite sure what you demand from me. What is an IC? I Am... ***D.D. 18:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- WP:IC.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:53, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Check again. I Am... ***D.D. 10:52, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- The change to merge refs is counterproductive. Please unmerge the refs. What I want is page numbers, issue number, volume number, ISSN if possible. See most of the Billboard refs at Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song) as I suggested before.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:15, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Lol. Check now. I think I'm finally done. I Am... ***D.D. 18:08, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- If you can find that information for those Billboard refs, you should try and find it for the others.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:12, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Lol. Check now. I think I'm finally done. I Am... ***D.D. 18:08, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- The change to merge refs is counterproductive. Please unmerge the refs. What I want is page numbers, issue number, volume number, ISSN if possible. See most of the Billboard refs at Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song) as I suggested before.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:15, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Check again. I Am... ***D.D. 10:52, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- WP:IC.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:53, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'm not quite sure what you demand from me. What is an IC? I Am... ***D.D. 18:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Can you fill in the source a little bit more. Look at the Billboard ICs from my Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song) FA.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Charts
I am somewhat disappointed in how few year-end charts are listed. How extensively was this researched?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)- When I was cleaning up Emily Ratajkowski, I did a lot of work to fill in year-end chart info for the song "Blurred Lines". I would suggest looking for other WP:RS for year-end charts in the other top songs of the year.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:09, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- I actually checked all of the year-end charts and the song was placed only in the ones that are present in the article. Many of the charts don't have year-end listings (Hot Dance Club etc.).
- See also
I would include lists like List of Billboard Hot 100 top 10 singles in 2005.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:09, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Done. I added that one.
- Images
Only 1 of the three Public Domain images has--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:55, 20 August 2014 (UTC){{personality rights}}
on it and all three should.- The main image and the music sample have adequate FURs.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:57, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- Can you please tell me how can I improve or what should I do with the images as I am not familiar with the rules? I Am... ***D.D. 16:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Add
{{personality rights}}
to both of the celebrity images that don't have it at commons.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Add
- I am putting this article on hold.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:56, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: Please check my comments. I Am... ***D.D. 16:51, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- I am Passing this article now.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:06, 6 September 2014 (UTC)