Talk:Spinto

Markw added the following text:

It also allows for sopranos and tenors with equally rich lower ranges not to be only cast in soprano/tenor roles. Essentially, one could say a spinto soprano is an alto with a soprano range or a soprano with an alto range (same for a baritone with a tenor range, and vice versa). However, it is important to note that spinto is usually reserved for sopranos who have control of their coloratura (or whistle register) and have a lower range. This is because a dramatic soprano is considered to be a lyric soprano with a rich, lower, "alto" range.

I don't believe it is correct to say that a spinto soprano is a soprano "with an alto range", whatever that means. The soprano lirico-spinto has essentially the same range as a lyric soprano, up to c6, only the voice is fuller and stronger. - Karl Stas 10:16, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See Vocal range. - Karl Stas 09:35, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know - spintos can push the head voice ( instead of a dramativc voice - these can push the chest voice). Also, this Fach has got a metal (I don`t surely mean the music genre Metal - i mean just the sound of the voice because of ability to push the head voice) often somehow sharp sound. Or are these singers also able to push the chest voice? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.218.245.147 (talk) 13:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Soprano lirico-spinto

I think saying that Cio-Cio San is a role which 'Renata Tebaldi made her own' is a bit of a biased statement for the purposes of explaining what a spinto is. Doublea 04:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Tebaldi was not a lyric, as mentioned in the "Vissi d'arte" survey (now edited). However, is Caballe more of a lyric or more of a spinto? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.137.208.178 (talk) 22:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think, that Caballe is in between both (spinto and lyric).

What about spintos in non -classical - music? Monica Naranjo would be a perfect example for a pop - spinto. Also C. aguilera is said to be one. And also in a way, c. Dion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.218.245.147 (talk) 13:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of spinto

I removed the following: "Rosalind Plowright defines a spinto voice as one that has a tonal colour one down from its range. For example, a voice with a mezzo's tone colour and the high notes of a soprano, or a voice with a tenor range and a baritone's tone colour, is a spinto. She names Placido Domingo as an instance of the latter." Plowright's definition, although interesting, is certainly not standard. First of all, tenors with a baritone quality to the voice are known as "Heldentenors", which have a disctinctly different sound than tenors refered to as spintos. So no offence to Plowright, but the reference to a baritone like quality to the sound really isn't accurate as that sound is covered by another fach. Likewise, a soprano with a mezzo like quality is not a spinto. Two types of soprano especially dear to the French that would better fit that discription are the Dugazon and the Falcon, which are intermediate voice types between the soprano and the mezzo soprano: a Dugazon is a darker-colored soubrette, a Falcon a darker-colored soprano drammatico. For more information see Boldrey, Richard (1994). Guide to Operatic Roles and Arias. Caldwell Publishing Company and the Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians (in particular the entries by Owen Jander).Nrswanson (talk) 17:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I restored the Rosalind Plowright section: it's well-sourced, and I can't see a good reason to remove it. If a different source gives a different definition, use it as a citation to give the opposing view. See WP:Neutral point of view. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 14:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tenore spinto

Since the spinto soprano has its own page, I believe that we also need a page for the tenore spinto as well. SpiritedMichelle (talk) 01:29, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]