Talk:Stayed Gone

Does File:Thumbnail for Stayed Gone.jpeg illustrate the song

File:Thumbnail for Stayed Gone.jpeg There is a disagreement between editors about whether File:Thumbnail for Stayed Gone.jpeg illustrates the song and is needed. As the uploader, I say yes. It was uploaded under a non-free media rational that is illustrates the song. Whether it is official or unofficial means nothing. It is an image that illustrates the (what consensus determined) coverless song. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 16:47, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

• Courtesy ping for GoatLordServant. I wanted to let you know that I started a talk page discussion since we are in disagreement currently about whether this image is suitable for the article. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 16:52, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

I find it is not appropriate. It is not cover art; it is a screenshot of the thumbnail of a fanmade video. Your previous XFd discussions over the thumbnails ended with the idea that these are best replaced with the actual cover art of the song, and not the thumbnail of a video. Whether or not it is fanmade is relevant, it's a random screenshot of a frame from the music video with the Hazbin Hotel logo and some spaced text written and placed by a fan in the bottom left. It's not an official representation of the song. It reminds me of why File:AmongUs CrewsonaSeven.png was removed from Among Us back in 2020. ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 17:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree, it is not cover art. That is actually what consensus determined. The consensus determined there is no cover for the song since it is from an album. That was the issue. The non-free media was reuploaded as being a screenshot from the song, not a cover for the song. On that I agree. I disagree with it being “not appropriate”. If you have something else to replace it with, mention that here. But if you do not have a replacement, then it is perfectly fine. Also, the song has no cover, so there is no “official” cover to replace it with. In reality, this is legit a screenshot from the music video with the title of the song on it. If that is considered not appropriate, then no screenshot for a music video would ever be appropriate. Just saying. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 17:23, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

@WeatherWriter: Personally, I would not have complained or reverted at all had the screenshot been official. That would be a process I am not equipped to understand or prod at, but even then, it is not exactly my task to offer a replacement. It is our task to uphold the quality of the encyclopedia and its coverage of topics. Even if that means that this article would have to have lacked an image at all. Thank you for the replacement, even if it might seem to be temporary, it satiates the bar for an official depiction of the article content.~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 04:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

If it is an unofficial fanmade thumbnail, it has absolutely no place on Wikipedia, especially not to serve as the official image for the song. In my opinion, if you cannot find a YouTube thumbnail for it that is from the official Amazon Prime Video or VivziePop channels, there should be no image for it at all. Blubewwy (talk) 22:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

No one said it is the "official image for the song". No one has said that and no one disagree with that. Everyone is getting upset because an image is being used for a coverless song that illustrates the topic of the article...aka the song. Why is there such a disagreement since it is legit a screenshot from the song with the song title on it? If I get the exact same screenshot without the words on it, no one could possibly complain since that would not be fan-made whatsoever? Is that what y'all want? A screenshot without the song title? The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Blubewwy – Please restore the image as there is no consensus to remove it. You can't just comment here and then deem the image is unsuitable and remove it without consensus. Restore it ASAP and let the discussion continue. Note, it is non-free media, so with your removal, you are saying the image does not represent the song, and I highly disagree with that assessment. Again, restore the image and don't try to self-inject your opinion as the result. This discussion was started to find a consensus, and right now, you are circumventing it. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

• @GoatLordServant: & @Blubewwy: – Since you both complained about the "fan-made" image, I replaced it with the exact frame screenshot from the show. Meaning, it is "official" and not "fan-made". Those argument are now solved. Any further "complains" would either fall into WP:IDONTLIKEIT territory OR they need to be about the file itself (i.e. how it does not represent the subject of the article...the song). Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:23, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you for the replacement! Fanmade content has no place on Wikipedia articles which aren't speaking about fanmade content. I do believe that there may still be further copyright issues with the screenshot, because I've seen screenshots from cartoons be removed from other articles before due to copyright, but as I myself don't understand why the screenshots are copyright issues I'm not planning on removing it lol. Blubewwy (talk) 01:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Can someone please add a genre?

I feel like this article needs a genre, it's just something I'm curious about. Bobby Max Harris (talk) 12:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)