Talk:Sucellus

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Material formerly at Celtic polytheism:

It may or may not be usefully incorporated here or at Dagda. QuartierLatin1968 El bien mas preciado es la libertad 19:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Lede[edit]

User:Quinto Simmaco (awesome user name, by the way! ☺) made some changes to the lede of this article that on the whole are improvements, but there are some elements I wanted to discuss. Here's how part of the text now runs:

Originally a Celtic deity, his cult was one of the few that flourished not only among Gallo-Romans, but also to some extent throughout the wider Roman world, without being reinterpreted and assimilated to the more traditional deities of the Roman pantheon. He has traditionally been associated with agriculture, brewing, and/or wine production.

As currently written, this overstates Sucellus' exemption from interpretatio, since (as the article later points out) we have the example from Augst where he is invoked as deus Sucellus Silvanus. Furthermore, there are other cases where Silvanus is depicted either as Sucellus or with a mix of elements typical of both: see this page for a little more on the subject.

I also don't think we can say that his cult flourished "to some extent throughout the wider Roman world". Sucellus' presence in Britain and Raetia is as likely to be due to a common Celtic religious substrate as to a radiation of the Gallo-Roman deity outwards (although the latter is certainly possible). By contrast, the cult of Epona really is attested in Italy, in the Greek-speaking East, etc.; but that's not what we have with Sucellus.

Oh, finally, we ought to get a citation about the agriculture/brewing/wine theme. I think Miranda Green says something like this; I'll see if I can find a page number. Q·L·1968 23:36, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

I've added a Miranda Green reference. Having heard no objection, I think I'll revise the sentences in the lede that I mentioned above. Feel free to weigh in if I'm going too far, Quinto Simmaco! Q·L·1968 18:19, 3 February 2016 (UTC)