Talk:Suicide (b-boy move)

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Powerful Pexster

An IP has repeatedly attributed this move to Powerful Pexster, sometimes while deleting the existing Frosty Freeze attribution (and its associated reference). The IP could be right, but until there's a citation I will keep reverting it. - Draeco (talk) 21:49, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well Mr [[Draeco (talk) I can assure you that it was me the Powerful Pexster New York City Breakers that did make the change due to The Rock Steady Crews lies and making him believe that he made up a complex move like the suicide no#1 Suicide (breakdance move) was a front no hand flip to a shoulder track the reason why I changed it is due. To the lack of teachings you do not land on your back cause you can break your back like. I did in 1984 in Venezuela [[1]] so I know and they all know the truth now I been on the Internet for 2 years and correcting all the errors [[2]]he evens says it in this. D man Freeze taboo to say[[3]] since the New York City Breakers. didn't or wasn't really involved in the early 90's and 20Th century with the Internet or which bboys made up what moves so they just had a free for all and started making claims of a ridiculous magnitude of moves they claim they have invented

I am The Powerful Pexster The Best in the world in 1984[[4]] But now I'm just a humble middle aged man in my 40's still loving the passion of the dance I was apart of and even created the moves that are done today and still rocking the floor. so I will like to say to all out there keep on your road ahead practice makes perfect.

so to you Draeco I know you devotion to getting the story straight Frosty Freeze he did incorperated the Ditang Breakfall[[5]] Back Breaker D Man drop but not Suicide (breakdance move) That was mine all the way Powerful Pexster New York City Breakers.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Powerful pexster (talk • contribs) 11:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I respect you trying to advance what you believe to be the truth, but on Wikipedia you need citations. There are good ones for Frosty Freeze, none for you. If it's true, you need to present citations or get it printed by a respectable source. I've saved your two citations for now, but I reverted your other edits. Links to other Wikipedia articles cannot serve as citations, and you can't change the general definition of suicides to match your personal version. - Draeco (talk) 03:54, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mr Draeco The citations you have presented holds no real bearings with factual references from others just. A way of making this process more difficult and confusing to the readers due the the fact that they are using references from the own groups members so I will tell you a respectable source in the Rock steady propaganda will always fail to give proper and creditable sources to wikipedia. Should be done which intelligent and proper explanations on the information given by the pioneers of the the art form I'm trying to believe that you believe what been told all the years of misinformation and lack of knowledge will always leave people in doubt when. I the creator of the Suicide (breakdance move)'Powerful Pexster New York City Breakers.. knows the truth and not trying to advance nothing less but what is facts.

Understood, but you still need citations; verifiability is one of the absolute core policies of Wikipedia. "I said so" is not sufficient, even if you were a pioneer. There needs to be proof. - Draeco (talk) 15:26, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]