Talk:Synod of Elvira

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Eliberris

The location of this synod, the Concilium Eliberritanum, should be given as it is in the documents, at an Eliberris ("new town"), whose location is moot. The title Elvira is simply a modern Spanish transliteration. See the text at Hispania Baetica: "Some of the Iberian cities retained their pre-Indo-European names in Baetica throughout the Roman era. Granada was called Eliberri, Illiberis and Illiber by the Romans; in Basque, "iri-berri" or "ili-berri", still signifies "new town". Why is Concilium being rendered synod? Would there be objections to making this the Council of Elliberis or the Synod of Elliberis, and discussing the location as part of the article? --Wetman 00:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Elvira" is the long-accepted name in English, and we should not brutalise it, any more than we would write Munich München or Moscow Moskva or Bangkok Krung Thep. I'm not a Basque speaker, but the Basque connection is very interesting, though my old Arriaga dictionary suggests a Basque origin of "new church" (eliz-berri) rather than "new town". Respected authorities such as the Catholic Encyclopedia use both terms, "Council" and "Synod", which now carry implications about the meeting's authority which the contemporary term "concilium" did not, so there is no right or wrong choice between them in English (except as parti pris on that question). Deipnosophista (talk) 14:28, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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