Talk:Tír Conaill

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no move. No overwhelming evidence has been presented for any option. Defaults to no move. JPG-GR (talk) 00:35, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both spellings “Tír Conaill” and “Tír Chonaill” seem to be used inconsistently throughout wikipedia. Surely as its an Irish term, the correct Irish spelling should be used (Tír Chonaill). Note that the Irish wikipedia uses the spelling “Tír Chonaill” throughout. Lucas42 03:10, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Tír Chonaill is the correct spelling in modern Irish, but Tír Conaill is what's in the New History of Ireland, volume 1, and what you'll find the The Oxford Illustrated History of Ireland. In volume 3 of the New History Tír Chonaill does appear in the index, but only to say "see Tyrconnell". Tír Conaill is the English name of the "kingdom", Tyrconnell is the "earldom", and Tír Chonaill is neither. Angus McLellan (Talk) 08:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The myriad spellings available for medieval things Celtic readily confuses the Mediterranean-oriented. Could these usages be clarified (medieval/modern/anglicisation/etc.) more accessibly in the various articles on Tyrconnell/Tír Conaill/Tír Chonaill? Or perhaps just at Tyrconnell, which is not easy reading? Srnec (talk) 03:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I support the move, it is time English moved into the 21st century.

We got rid of Peking and Bombay, surely Tyrconnell and its varients should be put into the dustbin as well!Eog1916 (talk) 21:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Except that Tír Conaill and Tyrconnel appear in modern, reliable sources published by Four Courts or Gill & Macmillan, or written under the imprimatur of the Royal Irish Academy, while Tír Chonaill would be more appropriate only if this were Vicipéid. Hardly comparable with Mumbai/Chennai/Kolkata/Beijing. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've also seen a map which spells it “Tyr Connail”

Surely we should be consistent with spelling throughout Articles, if not, there should be an explanation somewhere about how the spelling has changed over time. Lucas42 17:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.