Talk:Tank!
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[edit]Is "Tank!" an adaptation of Emerson, Lake and Palmer's song "Tank"? One must admit the two sound very, very similar and have a similar structure but damned if I can't find any written evidence on the web that they are so. I was wondering if anyone else noticed the similarity in the songs and wanted to engage in some research to see if this was true and, if so, if would be information worth adding to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.162.61 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 2006 January 8
Actually, it's quite the other way around. Emerson, Lake, and Palmer's version in a remake of the original. I beleive that it was an attemp at remaking the song with synthesizers thrown in the mix that escalated into its own product, however; for that I would need some verification. If anyone had this information it would be great to add to the article. On the other hand, if it is that different, maybe the Emerson, Lake, and Palmer song should have its own article? Somebody, reply! --66.82.9.68 22:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Are you kidding me? The ELP song "Tank" was released in 1970, when Yoko Kanno (the composer of Cowboy Bebop's "Tank!") was six years old. I seriously doubt she wrote "Tank!" at such a young age, and if she did, I doubt ELP ever caught wind of it before 1970. Funkeboy 08:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- No, I'm not insinuating that Yoko Kanno wrote it, I think she's also re-using it. I have no clue as to the original writer, but I'm almost sure Emerson, Lake, and Palmer didn't write it. I'm not sure, of course, otherwise, I'd put it in the article.--67.142.130.12 03:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have the original music to this track - without the saxophone solo; it is a piece of production music titled "Hit & Run," and credited to R. Dollimore. chikkiboo@sbclglobal.net - I don't remember my wikipedia logon
- ELP was pretty good about attributing their songs to other people when adapting their work. "Tank" is credited to Keith Emerson and Carl Palmer (go figure, it is primarily a percussion/keys duet) on this album (and this live album). There are other pieces on both of those albums that demonstrate what I'm talking about with them crediting original composers. ELP was somewhat known for adapting classic works (Toccata, Pictures at an Exhibition, etc.), but I do not believe that this was one of those occasions. Funkeboy 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- Damned if I can hear any similarity between the two pieces apart from the title. Lee M (talk) 14:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know if it is actually "Spike's" voice in the opening? It doesn't sound much like him to me.
Does anyone know who the saxophone player is who solos in "Tank!"? I found a list of all the people in the Seatbelts, but there's about seven saxophones in the Japanese member list, and three in the American.
- If anyone can get a copy of one of the albums containing "Tank!", we can probably answer this question as well as that of the person who does the "okay, 3, 2, 1, let's jam" speech at the beginning. I can only say that, to me, it definitely does not sound like Steven Jay Blum. Tony Myers 09:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
- It isn't Steve Blum. The Tank! song was recorded with the English dialog at the beginning before the series was even made, and thus Blum had not even been considered for the role yet. I'm removing that bit from the article. Fiction Alchemist 15:42, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
So are we just gonna talk about how this song is clearly taken from ELP or are we going to actually put it in the article. It is a very relevant piece of knowledge and has a place in the article. I think I may put it in myself. Atomicswoosh 19 April 2008
Not only is there no actual evidence whatsoever, the two songs are nothing alike at all. The comment is unprovable and also uncited, and unless real, actual evidence with proper citations can be added to verify the assertion, I am removing that information from the article. Feel free to re-add it when you have proper verification and citations.PiccoloNamek (talk) 08:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Saxophone
[edit]I don't have a definitive souce telling me otherwise, but the sax in the song goes way too low on the scale to be an alto saxophone. That and its timbre, especially on said low notes, sound more like a tenor saxophone. Any fellow sax players / jazz enthusiasts dispute this? Keno (talk) 19:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I have a paper copy of the sheet music here, and it actually contains the insturmentation for the solo. It's an alto sax part, and it doesn't even go under the low Bb that most alto saxophones are limited to. Perhaps the soloist in the recording is playing tenor? With a properly transposed score, of course. However; I must say that the fil part at the end is DEFINITELY an alto. I don't disagree with that possibility, but consider this my official dispute of your statement. Mainly because I'd like some more evidence. Perhaps a set list?97.81.234.77 (talk) 01:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)