Talk:Tell Me You Love Me (TV series)
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[edit]Why there's nothing about the clean-cut version which was aired here (Finland)? I would think the episodes are shorter when they're cut, or what?82.141.124.146 (talk) 07:18, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
It's NOT real sex
[edit]It's not real sex. It's achieved through prosthetics and ACTING (they're actors, remember?). Just check the various threads for the programme on IMDB. And the actress Ally Walker (a married mother of two, for crying out loud!) actually confirmed that no real sex took place on the set at the press conference (when asked if any of the actors actually had sex she said "I know I didn't"). I can't be bothered to reference any of this because a quick Google will reveal all, so to speak. The whole thing is just (pretty cynical) hype on HBO's part (and a bit of critic-baiting at the conference). 90.207.66.109 01:00, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- It would help if you could provide links to this information. Even if you don't feel like editing the article, someone else can use the links to improve it. --StuffOfInterest 11:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- OK, the first external link in the main article does, in fact, itself reveal the sex to be acting. With reference to the 'handjob' supposedly performed by Sonya Walger on Adam Scott at the end of the pilot the show's creator Cynthia Mort states in the article that "Sonya is not going to put her hands in a place that they shouldn't be". The 'organ' in question is a highly realistic prosthetic, as revealed on this IMDB thread [1]. And here's a link to an article containing the Ally Walker denial (plus a somewhat more ambiguously-worded denial - but still clearly a denial - by actress Michelle Borth) [2]. 90.207.66.109 13:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- No, the first external link does nothing but coyly suggest that the sex is not, in fact, actual. I agree that it's sensible to think it's not real, and I agree that the link provided here does attempt to address that fact, but neither of the links actually state anywhere with any certainty that the graphic sex scenes were achieved through the use of prosthetics. Do you know why they don't? Because they were written by people who attempted to make guesses at how the network would have "gotten away with" something like that, and not by anyone who actually knows anything about the show itself. All we're asking is that someone find a reliable source somewhere out there that actually explains the whats and hows behind the sex scenes (and no, I don't think a thread on imdb.com is going to cut it). Otherwise, kindly remove the unsourced claims about prosthetics from this entry. 63.95.36.13 22:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- Michelle Borth has denied that any real sex took place in a recent issue of 'Vegas' Magazine: "I'm flattered. I mean, if you really think I'm having sex, then I deserve an Oscar, but did anybody ask Heath Ledger if he was really nailing Jake Gyllenhaal in 'Brokeback Mountain'?"[3]. 90.205.92.110 00:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- Jane Alexander has said the following: "You know, people tend to believe those scenes, when they see them, are real, but they're not. They're acted. Our union doesn't even let us have any real sex, not that we would anyway. But just acting with someone like David [Selby], whom I have known for so long, it was fine. Those scenes are never easy."[4]. 90.205.92.110 23:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- OK, the first external link in the main article does, in fact, itself reveal the sex to be acting. With reference to the 'handjob' supposedly performed by Sonya Walger on Adam Scott at the end of the pilot the show's creator Cynthia Mort states in the article that "Sonya is not going to put her hands in a place that they shouldn't be". The 'organ' in question is a highly realistic prosthetic, as revealed on this IMDB thread [1]. And here's a link to an article containing the Ally Walker denial (plus a somewhat more ambiguously-worded denial - but still clearly a denial - by actress Michelle Borth) [2]. 90.207.66.109 13:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
So what exactly is the distinction of the sex being "real"? Is it penetration of the penis into the vagina? Does this mean that a girl grinding her vagina and labia along a guys erect penis isn't "real sex" and is suddenly acceptable?24.118.111.42 (talk) 06:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Episodes
[edit]This article is missing an episode list.--Opark 77 (talk) 01:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Recent Vandalism
[edit]User 86.136.114.13 recently vandalized the Controversy section of this article by changing the wording of direct quotes from citations, and the wording of the article to indicate that the sex in the show was NOT simulated. I've reverted the changes.70.116.134.225 (talk) 18:35, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Dubious first
[edit]One of early episodes of this series shows a female character giving a "handjob" to a male character, ending in his ejaculation, all visible. Now, as noted, the scene was simulated (even watching it the first time you can tell it's a prosthetic). Nonetheless, it might be worth checking to see if this might be the first-ever on-screen depiction of this in a mainstream television series. Given the recent controversy over a similar scene (sans visible penis) in Girls, it might be worth noting. 70.76.69.162 (talk) 20:02, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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