Talk:The Lady in the Lake
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Differences between editions?
[edit]In a number of places, the Introduction and Plot Summary differ from the Penguin edition (Harmondsworth 1952):
Little Fawn Lake is on private land and not a resort. The nearby resort is Puma Point. Neither is just an hour or so from Los Angeles, as Marlowe tells Degarmo that Little Fawn Lake is 46 miles up mountain roads from San Bernadino.
Mildred Haviland was not just the mistress of Dr Almore, who is not just an innocent physician but also a drug dealer, but was also the nurse in the surgery at his house and probably the killer of Mrs Almore.
In Bay City, it is not the Chief of Police who frees Marlowe but a senior detective, Captain Webber.
References to the USA being at war do not occur only at the very end, when Degarmo is shot by a sentry for failing to stop, but are scattered throughout the work, starting in the third sentence with rubber blocks being salvaged. Some hints are quite subtle, like repeated mentions of holidaymakers at Puma Point being mostly female.
The Lawless One (talk) 14:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
- I agree about the war comment, see my additional comment below and I will check the other issues you mention. Mdebellis (talk) 23:06, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- I fixed the issue with Little Fawn lake. Mdebellis (talk) 22:41, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- fixed issue with Webber rather than the chief letting Marlowe go. Mdebellis (talk) 17:29, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- The last issue was how far was Little Fawn Lake from LA? Chandler wasn't all that meticulous with these kinds of details and I googled the distance to Lake Arrowhead and Big Bear Lake from LA and both come in at about 90 minutes. Of course the roads are much better now but I think "about an hour" is a reasonable description so I'm going to leave it unless anyone wants to discuss further. Mdebellis (talk) 17:42, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- fixed issue with Webber rather than the chief letting Marlowe go. Mdebellis (talk) 17:29, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- I fixed the issue with Little Fawn lake. Mdebellis (talk) 22:41, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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- Done! Mdebellis (talk) 17:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
references to WWII
[edit]The article currently says "The ending of the book makes a direct reference to America's involvement in World War II, which was barely mentioned in Chandler's other wartime books." I think this statement is misleading or just down right false. Chandler wasn't very prolific and he wrote less as he got older. He didn't write many "war time books", I think really only two novels this one and The Long Goodbye and both of them mention the war fairly prominently. I think something much more accurate to say would be that Chandler tended to stay away from mentioning specific cultural events in his books but WWII is actually an exception. I'm going to change this eventually but just wanted to document for now in case anyone wants to discuss Mdebellis (talk) 23:04, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- As I recall, in Farewell My Lovely there are many references to Moral Rearmament, and at least a couple of the characters say that they have been drafted or are about to enlist. Much more in this book about WWII than in Lady in the Lake.... Hayford Peirce (talk) 19:09, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Moral Rearmament was a religious movement at the time. It was the precursor to things like the moral majority. To my knowledge it had nothing to do with the war. Farewell my Lovely was published in 1940. Since the US didn't enter the war until after Pearl Harbor (December 1941) there could not have been references to the war in that novel and I'm pretty sure there was no draft in the US by that point either. Mdebellis (talk) 19:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)