Talk:The Peanut Butter Falcon

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Zack Gottsagen

I have not been successful in my attempts to create a page for the movie’s star, Zack Gottsagen. Can someone please explain why? He should clearly have a page, based on wikipedia’s criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fielding99 (talk • contribs) 03:44, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Someone has already created a page at Zachary Gottsagen. It is currently set to redirect to The Peanut Butter Falcon.

You might want to start creating a WP:DRAFT page and making sure it includes plenty of reliable sources. Follow the instructions about WP:DRAFTS. Best of luck. -- 109.77.206.74 (talk) 04:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

starring

Having looked at the trailer and then a t.v. interview with Zack Gottsagen,I think he definitely should be in the first sentence as one of the stars. In fact, it would seem that he might be the lead. Can someone who has seen the movie confirm or disconfirm this?Kdammers (talk) 04:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

On the poster he's given top billing, it would be strange not to include his name so I have added him to the lead. -- 109.79.173.142 (talk) 21:36, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Budget

Ramos, Dino-Ray (March 15, 2019). "'The Peanut Butter Falcon's Shia LaBeouf, Zack Gottsagen And Filmmakers Talk Non-Cutesy Authenticity Of SXSW Film". Deadline.
"They were on their way to make a small, $20,000 feature."

As this was the best available source at the time I added this figure and source to the Infobox. Deadline is a reliable source frequently used in film article and it gives readers an estimate of how much the film cost. Also Template:Infobox film says do not cherry pick budget figures, and blanking the information without a better source is worse than cherry picking.

The Hollywood Reporter "Initially Schwartz and Nilson thought they’d be making a low to close-to-nonexistent-budget film"

This link was suggested but it does not negate the earlier figure, and is not good enough reason to delete reliably sourced information. I would welcome a more recent source with an updated budget figure but this link provides no new facts. At best it means we should be cautious but that already goes for all film budgets. (It wont surprise me if Box Office Mojo comes along next week and rounds off the budget figure and calls it $1 million but we can discuss that if it happens.)

Films have been made before on tiny budgets only to later have a huge additional spend on post production, music licensing, prints and advertising, and other costs, for example: e.g. The Blair Witch Project budget: $60,000. It doesn't negate the what the original filming budget was, but it does mean the article body (or Production section) should do more to explain that the budget figure is not the full indication of what the film cost in the end. I expect actors worked for scale. I read an article that explained how the filmmakers knew the area and kept location shooting cheap and improvise some of what they needed (I'll try and find that article if it isn't one of the sources already included). I also read that some musicians waived their fees for the soundtrack.

I welcome other sources, possibly as well as or instead of the current source but I blanking does not help readers, and I we should have discussion and consensus before removing the current source. -- 109.79.173.142 (talk) 20:58, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More unexplained deletion. As I said above I welcome better sources but blanking doesn't help anyone. -- 109.79.163.125 (talk) 01:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More unconstructive blanking -- 109.79.91.135 (talk) 15:05, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A plausible source puts the budget at $6.2 million. -- 109.79.91.135 (talk) 02:59, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Poster billing block

As usual the reduced sized copy of the poster included by Wikipedia is barely big enough to read the 4 names at the top of the poster and once more and yet again they failed to provide an external reference to a higher resolution version. To read and WP:VERIFY the billing block you will need a much higher resolution version of the poster for The Peanut Butter Falcon but IMPAwards has a copy if anyone wants to check.

The billing block lists the following seven people: Shia Labeouf, Dakota Johnson, John Hawkes, Bruce Dern, Zack Gottsagen, with Jon Bernthal, and Thomas Haden Church.

I think listing the above the title, top billing of the main four actors would have been best, but so long as there's a high resolution copy of the poster available allowing editors to check the right names are listed then either works. -- 109.79.173.142 (talk) 21:32, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and someone went and changed the poster without any explanation whatsoever. The article was using the photo poster and was changed to use the illustrated poster. Template:Infobox film says "Ideally, an image of the film's original theatrical release poster". -- 109.79.190.97 (talk) 13:40, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can tell, the illustrated poster is a "special illustrated" one as part of the film's expansion. It's not clear if this poster is actually used in the expansion's marketing. It seems best to go with the poster that was distributed at the same time the film had its theatrical release, however limited. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 00:20, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Man not Young Boy

The description should be changed to say "A man with Downs Syndrome ..." rather than calling him a young boy. The actor playing him is in his 30s. Unless someone can confirm that he is meant to be a child we should avoid calling him a child when he is not. It's even more important when describing people with intellectual disabilities. An adult with that disability is still an adult.

I thought about changing that too but didn't because I wasn't sure what age the character was actually supposed to be.

Looking at the article from Slashfilm it says "Gottsagen plays Zak, a young man with Down syndrome" (emphasis added) and "Playing a character about a decade younger than himself was a unique experience for the leading man" so I don't think any reasonable editor would object to the change of wording. Also it will probably be changed when a plot summary is added. -- 109.78.199.78 (talk) 12:52, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Categorized as a film based on Huckleberry Finn

"Based on" and "resembles" are different things. Not having seen the film yet, I have to question if this is accurate. Sterlingjones (talk) 18:17, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]