Talk:The Society in Dedham for Apprehending Horse Thieves

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Peter D. Kramer (October 11, 2021). "Red Hook posse has been on guard against horse thieves for 225 years, and counting". Poughkeepsie Journal. Retrieved February 16, 2022. They'd told everybody they were the oldest. Their Wikipedia page still says so.

I've added a few sources from newspapers and the Dedham Historical Society. This should show that the Society, and its Wikipedia article, are not hoaxes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Briancua (talk • contribs)

That's good to know. Now we need sources to show that this organization has sufficient notability for inclusion in Wikipedia. The fact that it exists really isn't enough. Replies should to this should probably go to the article's AfD page. Rklawton 16:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Claiming various popes and presidents as members of this is an inside joke. It is far from accurate as portrayed in this article and very unencyclopedic. It gives credence to the idea that the entire organization is just someone's idea of a joke. Can anyone cite any sources indicating which popes and presidents are members - any source that isn't just a self-reference? Rklawton 00:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- Sure. Its already referenced in the article, but you can find the link here. --01:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Sources

I am hesitant to spend any time on this because it seems like the article might be deleted but the advertisement used to support the bank account claim is NOT a valid source.--Dmz5 04:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also please provide a source for the presidents claim that does not require a paid subscription to a newspaper's archive.--Dmz5 04:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Remove source...

Placing here ... Robert Hanson (1999). "Stories Behind the Pictures in the Images of America: Dedham Book" (^{[dead link]}). Dedham Historical Society Newsletter (December). Ealdgyth - Talk 18:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The oldest or "one of the oldest"?

This article's lead currently starts with The Society in Dedham for Apprehending Horse Thieves is one of the "oldest continually existing horse thief apprehending organization [sic] in the United States ..." but the information at https://web.archive.org/web/20110929201907/http://www.dedhamhorsethieves.org/id5.html claims that "The Society is the oldest continuously existing horse thief apprehending organization in the United States". Later, Szymanski's article is cited for the statement that "... many similar private anti-theft organizations existed at the time the Society was founded". If the article is to rely on the Society's claim then the words "one of" should be dropped, or alternatively the opening wording should be amended to say that the society "claims to be ... oldest continually existing horse thief apprehending organization ...". Which is the better approach? BobKilcoyne (talk) 04:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the section on "Claims of being the oldest" explains the situation. --Slugger O'Toole (talk) 13:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]