Talk:The Surgeon of Crowthorne

	Psychology portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Psychology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Psychology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PsychologyWikipedia:WikiProject PsychologyTemplate:WikiProject Psychologypsychology articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Books: Reference works

	Books portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Books. To participate in the project, please visit its page, where you can join the project and discuss matters related to book articles. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the relevant guideline for the type of work.BooksWikipedia:WikiProject BooksTemplate:WikiProject BooksBook articles
	This article is supported by the Reference works task force.
	This article has been marked as needing an infobox.

Removed section "Excerpt"

The substance of the following may or may not belong in the article, but if it does, (even if an argument could be made under fair use the way to put it there is via paraprase. If you can explain why it adds encyclopedically to the article, you are a good candidate for doing the paraphrasing.

"…Trench presented an idea [in 1857], an idea that — to those ranks of conservative and frock-coated men who sat silently in the library on that dank and foggy evening — was potentially dangerous and revolutionary. But it was the idea in the end that made the whole venture possible.

The undertaking of the scheme [the OED], he said, was beyond the ability of any one man. To peruse all of English literature — and to comb the London and New York newspapers and the most literate of the magazines and journals — must be instead "the combined action of many". It would be necessary to recruit a team — moreover, a huge one — probably comprising hundreds and hundreds of unpaid amateurs, all of them working as volunteers.

The audience murmured with surprise. Such an idea, obvious though it may sound today, had never been put forward before. But then, some members said as the meeting was breaking up, it did have some real merit. It had a rough, rather democratic appeal. It was an idea consonant with Trench's underlying thought, that any grand new dictionary ought to be itself a democratic product, a book that demonstrated the primacy of individual freedoms, of the notion that one could use words freely, as one liked, without hard and fast rules of lexical conduct."

Ch.5

--Jerzy•t 18:49, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am new to the game and got the impression that Jerzy's comment had just arrived. Now I see it is from several years ago. But I agree with it. I am uncomfortable with having an excerpt, and there is so much variety in the book that picking any particular episode can give restricted impression. Maybe descriptions of a sampling of episodes would be better. My own changes were made to incorporate the references to the book reviews and mention of translations. I wish there was a style that allowed "for reviews see [1,2,3]". I would be happier with the actual mention of the books to be in the list of references rather than under "Sources". Re other nuances of wording, I thought "bank clerk", "schoolteacher", "useful" somewhat inadequate, and whilst Murray did not have the title "Professor" he certainly had the standing to be called a professor within accepted usages of the word (in OED). Crowthorne is described in the Wikipedia article about it as a small village, not a town. Michael P. Barnett (talk) 02:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]